Comments Thread For: Clottey Breaks Silence: Talks Pacquiao, Cotto, Margarito

[| THE KING |]

That link has a message saying that HBO video cannot be shown in my country because of copyright reasons.... but stop messing up the thread by posting me a link to something that you know I have already seen..... that's a bit silly isn't it ?

Clearly Clottey was over-matched..... that's the second silly thing you said in that very short post. Up your game bro, and answer my questions.

And, you have completely changed the subject..... why?

The question was NEVER about who backed up..... and you know it.

1.) I stated two very good reasons why Clottey's performance was bizarre

2.) you came back with "oh, he was getting counter-punched"

3.) I said BULL****, and gave you three very good reasons why

4.) Then I asked you for evidence to prove that Manny counter-punched Clottey, and you posted me this.....

" Manny covering up after clottey hit him? He would back up..... "

EXACTLY !! He did not counter-punch.

You actually just dis-proved that weak argument.

So that is a bull**** excuse as to why Clottey's punch output mysteriously disappeared AFTER ROUND TWO (which is not included in your video assessment for some reason?) even though I clearly stated that AFTER the two punch connect LATE in round two, Clottey was well-aware that he could hurt Manny and back him up.

You are starting to be a little dishonest now bro..... answer my questions please.

You need to re-read what you and I had posted. You typed a lot of ****, but still ain't said ****.

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You need to re-read what you and I had posted. You typed a lot of ****, but still ain't said ****.

I'll take that as a duck

Simply explain Clottey's bizarre performance in context with the "facts" that have been bought to the table, or dispute the "facts"..... plain and simple.

[Jack Napier]

Clottey lost to Tony when Tony was hurt too
had Cotto beat but give away championship rounds
scared stiff by Pac
full of excuses
Clottey deserve no more opportunities without beating someone

[| THE KING |]

I'll take that as a duck

Simply explain Clottey's bizarre performance in context with the "facts" that have been bought to the table, or dispute the "facts"..... plain and simple.

What is your point? Re-read what I had posted.. You went off on some other ****. And what facts have you brought?

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You need to re-read what you and I had posted. You typed a lot of ****, but still ain't said ****.

In fact, jeez TI..... what a duck that was.

I asked you for evidence to prove that Manny counter-punched Clottey as you so strongly suggested, and you posted me this.....

" Manny covering up after clottey hit him? He would back up..... "

EXACTLY !!

So Manny did not miraculously turn into this counter-punching wizard (AS YOU STATED EARLIER) without me noticing, even though I watched that whole fight

You actually just shot yourself in the foot, then accused me of talking ****

[| THE KING |]

In fact, jeez TI..... what a duck that was.

I asked you for evidence to prove that Manny counter-punched Clottey as you so strongly suggested, and you posted me this.....

" Manny covering up after clottey hit him? He would back up..... "

EXACTLY !!

So Manny did not miraculously turn into this counter-punching wizard (AS YOU STATED EARLIER) without me noticing, even though I watched that whole fight

You actually just shot yourself in the foot, then accused me of talking ****

Show me the post where I had said that?

[| THE KING |]

That link has a message saying that HBO video cannot be shown in my country because of copyright reasons.... but stop messing up the thread by posting me a link to something that you know I have already seen..... that's a bit silly isn't it ?

Messing up the thread? I'm giving you video of the fight itself. What's silly is how you are the only one arguing this ****.

Clearly Clottey was over-matched..... that's the second silly thing you said in that very short post. Up your game bro, and answer my questions.

How's that silly? Clottey was over-matched. I kept it short because you had very few to no valid points.

And, you have completely changed the subject..... why?

Changed what subject?

The question was NEVER about who backed up..... and you know it.

You stated that Manny would cover up and back up whenever Clottey threw punches. What you FAIL to realize is, right after Manny would back/cover up, Manny would follow up with 3-6-9 punch combos that had Clottey backing up and hiding in his shell. That's the point I was getting at.

1.) I stated two very good reasons why Clottey's performance was bizarre

2.) you came back with "oh, he was getting counter-punched"

3.) I said BULL****, and gave you three very good reasons why

4.) Then I asked you for evidence to prove that Manny counter-punched Clottey, and you posted me this.....

When did I say this? Show me the post.

" Manny covering up after clottey hit him? He would back up..... "

EXACTLY !! He did not counter-punch.

You actually just dis-proved that weak argument.

What are you talking about?

So that is a bull**** excuse as to why Clottey's punch output mysteriously disappeared AFTER ROUND TWO (which is not included in your video assessment for some reason?) even though I clearly stated that AFTER the two punch connect LATE in round two, Clottey was well-aware that he could hurt Manny and back him up.

Why did Mosleys punch output drop after round 2 against Floyd? Cause both Manny and Floyd had them beat.

You are starting to be a little dishonest now bro..... answer my questions please.

How?

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Show me the post where I had said that?

You said it here.....

Clottey said it himself. Whenever he threw .. Pac would tag him back with speed. Clottey didn't want to be another (T)KO in Mannys resume. Before the fight Clottey stated that he wanted to prove Roach wrong by not getting knocked out. He showed it and hid for most of the fight. If he did open up.. he'd get KD just like the rest of them..

Then you tried to support Clottey, when he used the same dishonest excuse.....

Clottey said it himself.. did you even read the interview? Did you even watch the fight, he says it in-between rounds. Clottey basically summed up Pacquiao the same way Cotto, Hatton, Diaz, DLH did. Manny hits you with **** you don't see.. with speed/angles/and power.

Then you tried to back that up by insinuating that Josh wouldn't lie, in spite of him saying so many clearly inaccurate things in that interview.

All of those things have been pointed out already, don't make me post them again T.I.

Don't bother.. this dude is trying to refute statements made by CLOTTEY himself (the man who actually fought Pacquiao in the ring)

Then you ONCE AGAIN tried to insinuate that Clottey's resignation to hurt Manny was caused by his fear of being counter-punched. Even though Clottey himself clearly stated that Manny's punches did not hurt him.....

Every time he tried to throw at Manny, 3-6-9 punch combos came back at him. HBO commentators were saying this as well. Did you watch the fight?

And, you said it again here.....

Maybe Manny didn't really hurt Clottey.. but that doesn't change the fact that he hid in his shell practically the whole fight in fear of being (T)KO'd. He admitted it himself when he stated (before the fight) he wanted to prove roach wrong and he would not be (T)KO'd. He proved it by not letting his guard down (besides throwing a potshot or two).

You asked me for proof..... do you not remember making those 5 posts ?

And then you admitted that when Clottey would throw, Manny would cover-up, and back-up.....

seriously? Manny covering up after clottey hit him? He would back up ......

Kinda contradictory there ?

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What is your point? Re-read what I had posted.. You went off on some other ****. And what facts have you brought?

All I am saying..... is that Clottey put on one-hell-of-an inept performance, for somebody who appeared to be able to hit, and hurt, his opponent at will.

And the backing off in round 6, when he had Manny on the ropes covering up after Clottey had out-punched him..... was more than bizarre.

That just went against every instinct that a "fighter" has.

[BennyST]

Clottey still has my respect. I think it is a good idea for him to move upto 154. He can move himself into title contention again.

Unlike most posters on this site who "pose" as boxing fans, I actually like watching Clottey fight. He just wasn't himself vs Pacquiao. I don't give a fuck about that.

Hopefully we get to see him fight in September.

Agreed. There was something off about him that night. He just didn't have it and whether it was nerves that got to him or whatever, it was quite obvious to anyone that has followed his career for more than the Cotto fight that he had something up with him. Maybe the weight draining for 147 has finally started to effect him badly enough that he just can't do it properly. He didn't have the same amount of time as usual to train, didn't have his coach.

Anyway, I'm glad he's moving up to 154. He should have a while ago now but all the big fights were at 147. He still deserves another big shot. People are being way too harsh. He still has always made good fights, apart from that single one.

I, for one, am really looking forward to seeing what he does at 154.