Roach and ariza

[Khalid X]

the hate in this forum is strong.

You guys realize roach trains A LOT of fighters, not just pac, khan and chavez? I seen Roach training FOUR guys at a **** card here in Tacoma that wasn't even on TV. 2 of his guys lost. They were all some bums.

Now, if roach/ariza had this magic potion, everyone in his stable would be winning and looking like monsters. But they aren't. The majority of the guys Roach trains are nobodies, simple and plain. I don't think half this forum realizes how many guys roach trains, it's amazing really how much time he spends in the gym.

Further, it was john fuucking duddy. The same guy that lost to Billy Lyle or whatever tomato can that was.

In addition, there were improvements in the ring that you could see roach had made with chavez. Simple, fundamental changes. Drinking a special drink doesn't suddenly teach you fundamentals.

Bro I been saying this for a minute. This board is complete ****, which is why I hardley post anymore, but to see this fight and not realize that his improvements were due to improved fundementals and taking his conditioning serious, really show how much a person lacks as far as knowledge of the sport. Ohh well, people are gonna believe what they wanna believe.

[johncods]

*****s man they're paranoid.

[revs1227]

u cannot improve conditioning that dramatically in a 4 week training camp i dont care who trains you he threw a ***in 1000 punches

[johncods]

u cannot improve conditioning that dramatically in a 4 week training camp i dont care who trains you he threw a ***in 1000 punches

Let me ask you a question are u a conditioning coach?? or even an active pro athlete of some sport??

[viperz007]

u cannot improve conditioning that dramatically in a 4 week training camp i dont care who trains you he threw a ***in 1000 punches

everyone that roach and ariza touches this guy will hate coz it so happen that one of the guys that they train sent his idol(on his sig) flat in the canvas in two rounds LOL.. i can smell hate

[JOM'S]

lolz Roach trained PAC in TWO WEEKS NOTICE to fight against Ledwaba, KTFO the champ in 6 rounds, throwing gazzilion POWER PUNCHES and the only question being asked then was ...

Who the F-CK is that guy?

[revs1227]

everyone that roach and ariza touches this guy will hate coz it so happen that one of the guys that they train sent his idol(on his sig) flat in the canvas in two rounds LOL.. i can smell hate

actually im a big pac fan so u sound like an idiot
and no ones tlakin about pac


and yes ive been around the sprort and have trained and no what it would take to go from a troy rowland performance to tonight performance
and its not ****ing 4 weeks of waking up early running
lets be real
iim not saying "HGH" or hes on roids
but they have to have something theyre using

ariza just looks shady as hell and chavez was caught cheating in his last fight

[revs1227]

just for the record im riding with pacquiao over floyd all day
but man u say one thing not even about pac what so ever
just ab his trainer and you ****ing pac fans get all defensive and start crying
your makin the floyd fans look good right now lol
i have no hate for pac or roach
what so ever

[-Antonio-]

John Duddy is a club fighter. JCC Jr. was supposed to look good.

[revs1227]

John Duddy is a club fighter. JCC Jr. was supposed to look good.

i dont disagree but he looked spactacular
and honestly i didntt even see him be able to win this
he looked so awful his last 5 fights