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  • paul750
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    #11
    1. Vitali Klitschko [looks to be a class above, but still needs more challenges. holds the legitimate belt.]

    2. Chris Byrd [has beaten VK, it was still a win regardless of the circumstances. byrd also has one of the best current records, has only lost twice.]

    3. James Toney [beat WBA champ ruiz, but was using drugs, so there's maybe some confusion there. i would still put him in the number 3 slot.]

    4. John Ruiz [he's still WBA champ, and still has some good wins on his record like rahman.]

    5. Luan Krasniqi [very good technical boxer, coming off a good win over whitaker,lennox lewis said he was one of the toughest sparring partners he had ever faced.]

    6. Lamon brewster [can be outboxed by a good ''boxer'' but still deserves credit for good wins over wlad klitschko and golota. and he is after all WBO champ.]

    7. Samuel Peter. [another guy who can possibly be outboxed, but he does have murderous punches, and he's still young and can maybe develop more technically.]

    8. Calvin Brock. [good win over McCline, looks to have good boxing ability and heart.]

    9 Hasim Rahman. [Rahman is one of the best operators in the heavyweight divison when he is on his game, great jab and overhand right]

    10. Juan Carlos Gomez.[i feel this guy is the most gifted heavyweight out there in terms of boxing ability, a lot depends on how motivated he is. the dark horse of the division IMO.]

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    • SacTown1
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      #12
      Originally posted by TheGreat1
      i agree with the ten but peter should be below Barrett who has been in with much better comp. bryd should be a little higher, he is the longest raining champ we have right now. other than that the list looks good.
      remember that Barrett has losses vs. Mesi, Vladimir, & Lance Whitaker, so we can't call him a top 5 guy until he has another big win or 2....Byrd will continue to slide until he has a significant, eye-opening W vs. a quality opponent, he has been struggling with B- fighters recently....

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      • TheGreat1
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        #13
        Originally posted by paul750
        1. Vitali Klitschko [looks to be a class above, but still needs more challenges. holds the legitimate belt.]

        2. Chris Byrd [has beaten VK, it was still a win regardless of the circumstances. byrd also has one of the best current records, has only lost twice.]

        3. James Toney [beat WBA champ ruiz, but was using drugs, so there's maybe some confusion there. i would still put him in the number 3 slot.]

        4. John Ruiz [he's still WBA champ, and still has some good wins on his record like rahman.]

        5. Luan Krasniqi [very good technical boxer, coming off a good win over whitaker,lennox lewis said he was one of the toughest sparring partners he had ever faced.]

        6. Lamon brewster [can be outboxed by a good ''boxer'' but still deserves credit for good wins over wlad klitschko and golota. and he is after all WBO champ.]

        7. Samuel Peter. [another guy who can possibly be outboxed, but he does have murderous punches, and he's still young and can maybe develop more technically.]

        8. Calvin Brock. [good win over McCline, looks to have good boxing ability and heart.]

        9 Hasim Rahman. [Rahman is one of the best operators in the heavyweight divison when he is on his game, great jab and overhand right]

        10. Juan Carlos Gomez.[i feel this guy is the most gifted heavyweight out there in terms of boxing ability, a lot depends on how motivated he is. the dark horse of the division IMO.]
        u put Luan Krasniqi over Brewster for beating Whitaker, when brewster just KO'd Golota and Wlad????? You also forgot Barrett, who beat Guinn, undefeated Beck, and was robbed against Mesi.

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        • paul750
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          #14
          Originally posted by TheGreat1
          u put Luan Krasniqi over Brewster for beating Whitaker, when brewster just KO'd Golota and Wlad?????
          i just feel the win brewster had over wlad was a freak win. and i feel golota just dosn't have it any more. i think brewster can be outboxed.

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          • Pac Man Fan 83
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            #15
            1 - Vitali
            2 - Brewster
            3 - Byrd
            4 - Toney
            5 - Rahman
            6 - Ruiz
            7 - Peter
            8 - Wlad
            9 - Brock
            10 - Barrett

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            • DiegoFuego
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              #16
              How can you even rank these garbage fighters? We all know the best two are Rahman and Toney, but with so called "champions" floating around, it's like, how do you rank them???

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              • vtamh
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                #17
                Some things i cannot under stand is how you can rank Brewster up there;; He hasn't fought anybody, and he beat Wlad, not Vlad. and the reason he won was that wlad tired mysteriously in a half a round. wlad had brewster almost out before that..Ruiz a the biggest
                joke of this century,Rachman is a B slugger,and chris byrd seems like he does enough just to win?? Sometimes, Fres O. clearly beat him. The rest of these heavyweight have not fought anyone to justify their fighting ability..Mark my word, when Vatali is healthy, he will reign down terror of this mediocre division.

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                • PBDS
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                  #18
                  ...Peter too high and Wlad too low. Wlad will return to his rightful place very very soon. Other than that, not too shaby.

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                  • oldgringo
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                    #19
                    1. Vitali - Until he's beaten...inactivity is pissing me off.

                    2. Brewster - He's here because of recent accomplishments and power. Wlad, Meehan, Golota, WBO champ...

                    3. Toney - More talent than anyone in the division by a mile. Hopefully he gets a crack at Vitali.

                    4. Byrd - Longest reigning champ, struggled with average fighters but still holds onto that IBF belt. Good comeback against McCline.

                    5. Ruiz - I hate to say it but yes he's at the 5 spot. Still holds onto his belt and still can beat some of the less talented guys.

                    6. Rahman - He's really not all that great but he's probably better than the rest. Good overhand right and recent string of wins put him here. The Barrett fight will tell us more.

                    7. Brock - Yes Brock is #7. He has good all-around skills and has the intangibles to succeed. Has a good win over McCline and has shown that he can get off of the canvas to win.

                    8. Peter - He's here based on potential and power alone. Hasn't beaten anyone worth a damn and we still have to find out if he can take a big punch.

                    9. Krasniqi - Good wins over SSS and Whitaker. He has skills and I guess we'll know more about him after the Brewster fight.

                    10. Barrett/Wladimir (tie) - Both guys have some good wins on their records but both are inconsistent and have obvious flaws. Again, we'll have to see how Barrett does against Rahman for more info, and Wlad will have to fight someone worth a damn, who can punch, in order for them to be any higher.

                    Outside looking in:

                    Juan Carlos Gomez, DaVarryl Williamson, Kirk Johnson

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                    • SacTown1
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by DiegoFuego
                      How can you even rank these garbage fighters? We all know the best two are Rahman and Toney, but with so called "champions" floating around, it's like, how do you rank them???
                      true, we can't make any objective rankings until some of the belt-holders begin to unify....why hasn't Byrd-Ruiz happened yet? This is the most obvious unification fight that would FINALLY eliminate one of those guys from the upper echelons of the division...and it's sad that Mike Tyson still draws bigger gates and PPV #'s than the actual "champs" in the division, which is why I STILL think Mike could land a title shot next year....basically, heavyweight boxing lix balls, it's all about 135-147 these days

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