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  • pistol whip
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    #241
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    What fighter are you talking about? Bradley?
    Yup! you are correct!

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      #242
      Originally posted by pistol whip
      Nah man not at all hes a great fighter but ready to fight pac? He has Khan, Maidana, Alexander and Ortiz in his division. Clean them out and damn right he's ready for Pac but right now he's a feather fisted Jr welter that has no buissness even day dreaming about fighting pac right now.
      Naw bro, I can't agree. So we going to have to agree to disagree right now. Hell at 140 he would be a tougher fight for Pac then what Clottey was at 147.

      Now if you talking about 147, then yes right now I would say Clottey>Bradley. I have to see Bradley first at 147. But, Bradley at 140>Clottey at 147.

      At 140 Bradley is a thougher fight than JMM at 140. Matter of fact Pac better only fight JMM at 135 since JMM doesn't belong above 135. Hell Bradley at 140 is tougher than Margarito or Cotto at 147/154.

      Bradley is the best JWW right now IMO. Pac is the champ in that division and Bradley is the #1 rank contender. No other JWW is ready for Pac. Not Alexander, not Khan, not Maidana, not any other guy but Bradley is ready right now for Pac.

      But, this is only if the fight is at 140. If the fight is at 147 then yes I could see your point. And, I would agree until Bradley proves otherwise at 147. But, if the fight is at 140 I have to disagree with you. Bradley is ready and if the Floyd can't happen deserves the opportunity to prove himself...

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      • pistol whip
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        #243
        Originally posted by jrosales13
        Please think real hard about what Bradley did and to what Devon did...

        Here is a clue look where both fight took place.

        Going to the road to face a champion is much much more tougher than fighting at home and fighting for a vacant belt.

        There is a reason why Froch wanted home court advantage against Kessler and also now doesn't want to go to Germany to face AA.

        Think about the different scenarios man.

        Ugh so a win over Junior Witter doesn't just count as a win over Junior Witter. Now you get bonus points depending on the country wher the win took place?

        Either way it was a ***ing blow out so whats the diffrence both fighters are ready for pac. They beat Junior Witter man!!!!! Do you know who he is? He's the fighter that gets you a fight with Pac!

        Someone call Floyd and tell him if he beats Junior Witter Pac will be forced to take blood tests and give up 20 percent of the revenue because if you beat Junior Witter! no words can explain how big a win and honor it is to beat Junior Witter in a boxing match. It's like beating god himself at a boxing match!

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          #244
          Originally posted by pistol whip
          Ugh so a win over Junior Witter doesn't just count as a win over Junior Witter. Now you get bonus points depending on the country wher the win took place?

          Either way it was a ***ing blow out so whats the diffrence both fighters are ready for pac. They beat Junior Witter man!!!!! Do you know who he is? He's the fighter that gets you a fight with Pac!

          Someone call Floyd and tell him if he beats Junior Witter Pac will be forced to take blood tests and give up 20 percent of the revenue because if you beat Junior Witter! no words can explain how big a win and honor it is to beat Junior Witter in a boxing match. It's like beating god himself at a boxing match!
          You not using logic my man... But, anyways do you know who Witter is? Do you know who avoided Witter cuz the risk didn't outweigh the reward? Think logically dude.

          Again is not tougher to beat a champ on the road to beating a guy for a vacant belt in the comfort of your home?

          And, I am going to use the IMDAZED line. Is not who you beat but when you beat them. When Bradley beat Witter ranked what? #1 I think or the very worse #2? Where was Witter ranked when Alexander beat him?

          And, this is what Reed wanted you to understand. Is not who you beat but WHEN you beat them.

          And, your sarcasm is lame cuz nobody is saying that Bradley should fight Pac just cuz of the lone Witter win. But, cuz Bradley few good wins he has had, how he has improved, how he has fought in different styles, how he has showed versatility.

          Your argument is kind of ****** to me. That is if Barrera would say before fighting Pac in 2003 that why should he fight Pac? Because, of Pac lone win agaisnt Ledwaba? Tell Pac to fight Joan Guzman, Paulie Ayala, Tim Austin, Oscar Larios and then he would deserve a fight.

          IMO those kind of arguments are ******. Us boxing fans should know who the top fighters are and what they bring to the table. If we don't know then you studied up more.

          Bradley is a legitimate opponent for Pac at 140. And, it baffles me that you don't think is true. At 140 Bradley is more legitimate opponent than Clottey was at 147.
          Last edited by jrosales13; 06-24-2010, 06:11 PM.

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            #245
            I agree with Shaw on this one. That's why I think Mayweather vs Pacquiao won't get made! Because Bob Arum IS THE GREDDIEST promoter out there! He would rather have Manny fight another top rank fighter, that way he can promote the whole show and keep all of the money!!

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              #246
              Originally posted by jrosales13
              Naw bro, I can't agree. So we going to have to agree to disagree right now. Hell at 140 he would be a tougher fight for Pac then what Clottey was at 147.

              Now if you talking about 147, then yes right now I would say Clottey>Bradley. I have to see Bradley first at 147. But, Bradley at 140>Clottey at 147.

              At 140 Bradley is a thougher fight than JMM at 140. Matter of fact Pac better only fight JMM at 135 since JMM doesn't belong above 135. Hell Bradley at 140 is tougher than Margarito or Cotto at 147/154.

              Bradley is the best JWW right now IMO. Pac is the champ in that division and Bradley is the #1 rank contender. No other JWW is ready for Pac. Not Alexander, not Khan, not Maidana, not any other guy but Bradley is ready right now for Pac.

              But, this is only if the fight is at 140. If the fight is at 147 then yes I could see your point. And, I would agree until Bradley proves otherwise at 147. But, if the fight is at 140 I have to disagree with you. Bradley is ready and if the Floyd can't happen deserves the opportunity to prove himself...
              I dunno bro!!! Can you see Bradley going at it against the guy who flattened Hatton?

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                #247
                Originally posted by AmericanFighter
                I dunno bro!!! Can you see Bradley going at it against the guy who flattened Hatton?
                The Hatton KO is impressive. They way he put him to sleep was crazy. But, Bradley is more diverse than Hatton. Bradley is different stylistically and has more versatility than Hatton.

                Pac is my favorite fighter right now. No matter what weight-class they fight I would favor Pac. And, at 147 I would favor him big. Since I haven't seen Bradley at 147.

                At 140 I would still favor Pac. But, I think Bradley would have a chance.

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                • pistol whip
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                  #248
                  Originally posted by jrosales13
                  You not using logic my man... But, anyways do you know who Witter is? Do you know who avoided Witter cuz the risk didn't outweigh the reward? Think logically dude.

                  Again is not tougher to beat a champ on the road to beating a guy for a vacant belt in the comfort of your home?

                  And, I am going to use the IMDAZED line. Is not who you beat but when you beat them. When Bradley beat Witter ranked what? #1 I think or the very worse #2? Where was Witter ranked when Alexander beat him?

                  And, this is what Reed wanted you to understand. Is not who you beat but WHEN you beat them.

                  And, your sarcasm is lame cuz nobody is saying that Bradley should fight Pac just cuz of the lone Witter win. But, cuz Bradley few good wins he has had, how he has improved, how he has fought in different styles, how he has showed versatility.

                  Your argument is kind of ****** to me. That is if Barrera would say before fighting Pac in 2003 that why should he fight Pac? Because, of Pac lone win agaisnt Ledwaba? Tell Pac to fight Joan Guzman, Paulie Ayala, Tim Austin, Oscar Larios and then he would deserve a fight.

                  IMO those kind of arguments are ******. Us boxing fans should know who the top fighters are and what they bring to the table. If we don't know then you studied up more.

                  Bradley is a legitimate opponent for Pac at 140. And, it baffles me that you don't think is true. At 140 Bradley is more legitimate opponent than Clottey was at 147.
                  I just think you have a case of fanboyitis because say what you guys want Junior Witter and Kendell Holt doesn't mean you fight Manny next Im sorry. There are a lot of flaws that Timmy has that would just get exploited by any fighter of that caliber. Hell I don't see timmy beating Cotto or Berto much less Manny so seriously how you came up with Pac being challanged by Timmy is beyond me.

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                    #249
                    This thread still going on?

                    Goodness.........

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                      #250
                      Originally posted by pistol whip
                      I just think you have a case of fanboyitis because say what you guys want Junior Witter and Kendell Holt doesn't mean you fight Manny next Im sorry. There are a lot of flaws that Timmy has that would just get exploited by any fighter of that caliber. Hell I don't see timmy beating Cotto or Berto much less Manny so seriously how you came up with Pac being challanged by Timmy is beyond me.
                      How about being Number 1 at 140 in the same weight class Pac holds a ring title in?

                      How does losing to the guy Pac destroyed means Clottey should fight Pac?

                      Bradley isnt a WW so why mention Berto or Cotto. Were talking about at 140.

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