My list of today's pound for pound best!

[Spray_resistant]

Imaginary lol personal...PW WON lol...!!!??? I know i sound a bit dubious with what I just said, but that isn't reality, and I didn't even ask for personal or imaginary pfp lists. Do you have Sergio ranked over PW pfp???

Lots of ppl disagree, when making your own personal list your are allowed creative liberty and don't have to go with official rulings you disagreed with because it is after all, your list.

All P4P lists are imaginary whether made by a publication or not BTW.

Yes I have Sergio over him because I thought he edged out a close fight, but P4P is not really about wins anyway.

You shouldn't take them so seriously though, its all just fantasy.

[Frank Ducketts]

Lots of ppl disagree, when making your own personal list your are allowed creative liberty and don't have to go with official rulings you disagreed with because it is after all, your list.

All P4P lists are imaginary whether made by a publication or not BTW.

Yes I have Sergio over him because I thought he edged out a close fight, but P4P is not really about wins anyway.

You shouldn't take them so seriously though, its all just fantasy.

I don't care who anyone has on their pfp list, but if you do create this list, and want to be fair to the fighters...you have to at least go by who won and who lost between two fighters, not who you think won or lost. I could create a list of imaginary pfp fighters like everyone else, but I chose to do my best, and put aside personal likings... Nobody is taking things seriously. I am simply asking why this fighter rates over that fighter...that's all.

[Frank Ducketts]

But, saying all that your list is laughable.

I know lol... The sun don't shine if son don't shine lol...

[Frank Ducketts]

I thought JMM beat Pac in their rematch, but I'd have been a fool to have JMM ranked pfp or ranked at 130 lbs over Pac at the time that they fought.

[Spray_resistant]

I don't care who anyone has on their pfp list, but if you do create this list, and want to be fair to the fighters...you have to at least go by who won and who lost between two fighters, not who you think won or lost. I could create a list of imaginary pfp fighters like everyone else, but I chose to do my best, and put aside personal likings... Nobody is taking things seriously. I am simply asking why this fighter rates over that fighter...that's all.

The judges are not always right, they could have been in this case of PWill/Sergio as it was very close but many disagree. Fans decide who the best fighters are really not official records.

The P4P theory is more about skills and ability not wins so much, it just happens that skilled fighters with ability win often.

[Frank Ducketts]

The judges are not always right, they could have been in this case of PWill/Sergio as it was very close but many disagree. Fans decide who the best fighters are really not official records.

The P4P theory is more about skills and ability not wins so much, it just happens that skilled fighters with ability win often.

A pfp list constists of everything from wins/who you lost to, to skills, and placing the big and small together in the ring...and then imagining who wins-we all know this. Close fights that can go either way are respected by me even if the majority think the judges got it wrong.

[Spray_resistant]

A pfp list constists of everything from wins/who you lost to, to skills, and placing the big and small together in the ring...and then imagining who wins-we all know this. Close fights that can go either way are respected by me even if the majority think the judges got it wrong.

I don't but fair enough if you do in your personal lists.

I have a question; what would you do with Sergio and PWill if PWill fought Pavlik and got ko'd which he could because of his more aggressive style, if you are taking wins into account?

Do you then put Sergio above him, leave the rankings where they are, or place Pavlik somewhere in relation to them?

[Frank Ducketts]

I don't but fair enough if you do in your personal lists.

I have a question; what would you do with Sergio and PWill if PWill fought Pavlik and got ko'd which he could because of his more aggressive style, if you are taking wins into account?

Do you then put Sergio above him, leave the rankings where they are, or place Pavlik somewhere in relation to them?

i'm going to be honest...I'm not great at "if" questions, and I rarely answer them. I'm a realist. It would depend on where the guys were listed for the record. If PAv was number 1 pfp, and PW was 3, and Sergio was 6, PW would still be ranked ahead of Sergio. I hope that helps... When pfp guys fight each other, i rarely drop them far unless they were stopped. I don't have Cotto ranked in the top 10 pfp, and I have a lot of respect for Cotto.

[bojangles1987]

Ward?Ward Is just getting his feet wet at 168, why all of a sudden would he be a top 10 p4p?

Skills and the way he completely dominated Kessler and Green. He deserves a spot based on his accomplishments recently more than Hopkins does.