James Kirkland vs Chavez jr.

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Chavez beating Kirkland?

Nah...

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Betting on pacquiao, hopkins, ward, dirrell, etc.



I can't believe people were saying in that thread chavez would beat kirkland.

Williams I think is going down hill. His chin is starting to crack. He's got no defense and not much power at 154 I think kirkland would walk through him.

He doesnt have power at 154?

Every fight hes had at 154 he stopped everyone except Martinez and the Coward Frog.

He doesnt have defense? its been like that his whole career. He has more defense than Kirkland who is easy as hell to hit. Kirkland NEVER moves his head until hes punched in the face.

His chin is cracking based on what?

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Yes I agree.

Instead of trying to outbox Pwill. Do what plays into his hands. Rush him...

Great gameplan.



Paul knocks his head off his shoulders. I have no idea what Williams had to do with this thread anyway. Paul stops that kid.

Jesus if id give Kirkland a bigger chance in a tear up punches harder has a good chin id say PWILL would have to box

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He doesnt have power at 154?

Every fight hes had at 154 he stopped everyone except Martinez and the Coward Frog.

The only person he faced good at 154 was Martinez and Kermit. Unless you count an old Verno Phillips who was landing clean ass shots on williams too.

He doesnt have defense? Um its been like that his whole career. He has more defense than Kirkland who is easy as hell to it. Kirkland NEVER moves his head until hes punched in the face.

So you critisize kirkland for his lack of defense but since it's "been like that forever" with williams its ok??

His chin is cracking based on what?

Getting buckled/hurt by Cintron. Getting buckled/stunned and knocked down by martinez...

I'm just being real. I like williams but he's going to get KO'd soon man the writing is on the wall.

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Jesus if id give Kirkland a bigger chance in a tear up punches harder has a good chin id say PWILL would have to box

Watch Kirkland fight. Williams is reckless but Kirkland is over the top.

Williams would catch him with a left hand or an uppercut and turn his lights out. You dont go to war with Pwill.

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Williams would catch him with a left hand or an uppercut and turn his lights out. You dont go to war with Pwill.

reallly? Martinez did any many observers felt he won.

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The only person he faced good at 154 was Martinez and Kermit. Unless you count an old Verno Phillips who was landing clean ass shots on williams too.



So you critisize kirkland for his lack of defense but since it's "been like that forever" with williams its ok??



Getting buckled/hurt by Cintron. Getting buckled/stunned and knocked down by martinez...

Who has Kirkland "faced thats good" at 154? Joel Julio?

I didn't criticize either one. Im saying they BOTH don't have defense. Paul at least moves his head which is something Kirkland doesn't do. Hes a super easy target.

He got stunned by a monster puncher? Is that shocking?

Martinez was dropped by Paul too.

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reallly? Martinez did any many observers felt he won.

Well Martinez himself said he lost.

Martinez > Observers

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I didn't criticize either one.

You call Kirkland a bum.

Im saying they BOTH don't have defense. Paul at least moves his head which is something Kirkland doesn't do. Hes a super easy target.

Williams has shown in almost every single fight he's easy to hit. Everyone hits williams cleanly.

He got stunned by a monster puncher? Is that shocking?

It was shocking that williams could have lost that fight and was on the verge of possibly losing the fight before the leap frog incident, yes.

Martinez was dropped by Paul too.

Off balance shot which did not hurt martinez. Williams on the hand was hurt when he went down.

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Kirkland because he is fun to watch.
Lets see what he looks like when he comes back?