James Kirkland vs Chavez jr.

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You call Kirkland a bum.



Williams has shown in almost every single fight he's easy to hit. Everyone hits williams cleanly.



It was shocking that williams could have lost that fight and was on the verge of possibly losing the fight before the leap frog incident, yes.



Off balance shot which did not hurt martinez. Williams on the hand was hurt when he went down.

So Williams boxing and listening to his trainer means he would have lost a 12 round fight vs. Cintron? As soon as Will started being himself Cintron didnt want to fight anymore. Which is why the whole leap frog incident happened.

Williams got right up. He was not hurt. He punched Martinez in the side of the head and took his legs from him. Watch it again.

Williams went to war with a guy that Kirkland wouldnt see Round 6 with. Gimme a break.

[ИATAS]

So Williams boxing and listening to his trainer means he would have lost a 12 round fight vs. Cintron? As soon as Will started being himself Cintron didnt want to fight anymore. Which is why the whole leap frog incident happened.

So williams legs didn't buckle just prior to the leap frog incident? gmme a break man

Williams got right up. He was not hurt. He punched Martinez in the side of the head and took his legs from him. Watch it again.

So you're telling me Martinez was hurt and Williams was not? Man, your judgment is severely flawed by your love for Williams.

I've seen the fight several times, it was a great one to watch for us fans, Williams was clearly hurt.

My point is I think p-will's chin is starting to crack. You can ignore this if you want, but it's my opinion his chin isn't going to hold up much longer if he keeps going to war with people, especially if that person is kirkland.

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So williams legs didn't buckle just prior to the leap frog incident? gmme a break man



So you're telling me Martinez was hurt and Williams was not? Man, your judgment is severely flawed by your love for Williams.

I've seen the fight several times, it was a great one to watch for us fans, Williams was clearly hurt.

My point is I think p-will's chin is starting to crack. You can ignore this if you want, but it's my opinion his chin isn't going to hold up much longer if he keeps going to war with people, especially if that person is kirkland.

Show me when I said Martinez was hurt. Show me when I said Paul legs didnt buckle. Why are you making up stuff? Wiliams chin is better than Kirklands. Thats for damn sure. Martinez stops Kirkland in no less than 6 rounds.

Considering Kirkland is in jail weighing God knows what and might not even have a trainer on top of that AND the fact that hes still a green prospect makes mentioning him with Williams right now just plain silly. Williams is a legit Top 10 fighter in boxing...Kirkland is a green prospect.

[thiefery]

Kirkland by Fatality...

As for the PWIll talk.. Wish james wouldn't have ****ed up last year.. he would have already have fought PWill and probably ANgulo... hope he comes back hungry again.. Maybe he's the reason PWill went back to 147?

[KILLA RIGHT]

Two bums duking it out. I'll take the bum that hits harder.

Kirkland by KO.

You really think kirkland is a bum? WOW! a dumbass yes but a bum?

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Kirkland by Fatality...

As for the PWIll talk.. Wish james wouldn't have ****ed up last year.. he would have already have fought PWill and probably ANgulo... hope he comes back hungry again.. Maybe he's the reason PWill went back to 147?

He would have had to fight Dzinziruk to face Paul. Because Paul wouldve been Kirklands mando.

But the fight with SD never happened. He would lost to SD anyway.

[thiefery]

He would have had to fight Dzinziruk to face Paul. Because Paul wouldve been Kirklands mando.

But the fight with SD never happened. He would lost to SD anyway.

Nah homie, can't agree with you on SD... Kirkland would be too much for him with his pressure and power. I'm not saying I think Kirkland would be the greatest or anything but he would have lit that divison up.. probably wouldn't last long cause face it fighters like him never do.. but it would have been a helluva year.

Still hoping he can get back into the mix by next fall...(2011)

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Show me when I said Martinez was hurt.

You implied that he went down because he was not off balance, which he was.

Show me when I said Paul legs didnt buckle.

You implied kermit jumped out the ring because williams started to fight, even though it was williams legs that buckled just prior to the incident.

Wiliams chin is better than Kirklands. Thats for damn sure.

You seem to be missing my point that williams chin is starting to crack. You don't believe that's fine, just don't be shocked when williams is KO'd not too long from now and remember who told you.

Considering Kirkland is in jail weighing God knows what and might not even have a trainer on top of that AND the fact that hes still a green prospect makes mentioning him with Williams right now just plain silly. Williams is a legit Top 10 fighter in boxing...Kirkland is a green prospect.

Obviously we don't know what kind of shape, state of mind, etc. kirkland is currently in. So this whole fantisy match-up between williams vs kirkland we would need to leave the unknown out of it and only use what we have seen from Kirkland.

Hopefully he comes back true to form, but obviously there is a chance that wont happen. So I'll give you that much, if he comes back fat, out of shape, unmotivated, has a worse trainer, is depressed, etc., sure Williams would knock him out.

[Spray_resistant]

Its funny how the convo has gotten so far away from Jr. because of how much of a joke and how irrelevant he is

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Its funny how the convo has gotten so far away from Jr. because of how much of a joke and how irrelevant he is

Thats a good point...

I pissed his card is the highlight of the boxing weekend. Maybe Benavidez's fight gets aired.