Comments Thread For: Pacquiao Vows To Not Budge Further To Mayweather

[| THE KING |]

Because its Floyd "Money" Mayweather, he's a business man in a business sport. Pac did the exact same thing with Hoya and Hatton may I remind you.

Mayweather is not a businessman. LOL! If he was a businessman he wouldn't come close to losing out on the biggest payday of his career. Manny didn't make negotiations for DLH &Hatton as difficult as mayweather is. He didn't accuse his opponent of some bullet proof drugs and try to ruin his legacy. The share he received from both fights was well deserved. Pacquiao proved it by making oscar quit and putting hatton to sleep.

Floyd's always been about the money. The fact he "gave in" to 50-50 the first time around was shocking, let alone willing to pay 10 MILLION dollars for a weight penality JUST to make the fight.

You really believe agreeing to 50/50 was shocking? Yet, you said in an earlier post that you agreed it should be 50/50?
10 mil weight penalty is a non-issue. Do you see floyd cheating the scales? If not, what's the problem? Manny will have that same penalty should he come in overweight.

Did people REALLY beleieve he would again (even after he said he wouldn't if he beat Mosley while selling more PPV #'s)?

Why do people think "Money" Mayweather the businessman agree to old, expired, mythical terms that where torn and burned

Why was there an expiration date? LOL! Pre-roadblock? Do you want the fight or not?

the second Pac had hurt feelings and went to fight in court? As a bushiness perspective, why would Mayweather agree to this now?

You are the type of person that is okay of being accused of something based on nothing but bull**** rumors from criminals trying to ruin you career. If not, then how are you okay with the way team mayweather went to the media spewing that bull****? You don't think manny has an ego? He's a politician. LOL!

Remember now, Mayweather's the businessman and doesn't care about his fans or the sport. Pac's the one that states he fights for his fans and that its not about the money yet we have the Hoya, Hatton and now Mayweather negations to prove otherwise.

Mayweather businessman? If he was a businessman he wouldn't come close to losing out on the biggest payday of his career.

Manny fights for the fans, but to think he doesn't care about money is just ******. He just doesn't boast/flaunt/live for money.


Fighter of the Year recipients:

2000: Felix Trinidad
2001: Bernard Hopkins
2002: Vernon Forrest
2003: James Toney (2)
2004: Glen Johnson
2005: Ricky Hatton
2006: Manny Pacquiao
2007: Floyd Mayweather Jr. (2)
2008: Manny Pacquiao (2)
2009: Manny Pacquiao (3)

Manny was fighter of the year 3 times in the last ten years.


Manny is the Fighter of the Decade.

Past FOTD recipients :

2000s Manny Pacquiao
1990s Roy Jones Jr.
1980s Sugar Ray Leonard
1970s Roberto Duran
1960s Muhamad Ali
1950s Sugar Ray Robinson

Those are some BIG NAMES.

And You have former FOTD award winner Roy Jones Jr. talking about how Manny is one of the top ATGs of all time:

Roy went on and talked about Manny's character, " I love this guy to death, to come from where he came from and to rise to where he is at right now is truly amazing. He is my kind of guy, he is a brother in Christ."

Jones commented on where he thinks Manny ranks all time, " Manny is at least in the top 3 or 4 of the all time greats in boxing. Some of the things that he has done in boxing are amazing."

Whether you believe that or not that is some pretty big praise from one of the greatest boxers ever...

[Chuckguy]

They wont have a response E

[the gent]

One sided? LOL! I just stated facts that I can back up with actual proof. Why should Manny get 50-50, when Floyd makes more money in his fights than Manny?

Floyd generates more money with sponsors, live gates, and PPV sales.

here is another fact. Floyd does not make the money he will make in this "ONE" fight anywhere else, and if you say he does, just tell me which fight..

i'll wait right here...

[Chuckguy]

Mayweather is not a businessman. LOL! If he was a businessman he wouldn't come close to losing out on the biggest payday of his career. Manny didn't make negotiations for DLH &Hatton as difficult as mayweather is. He didn't accuse his opponent of some bullet proof drugs and try to ruin his legacy. The share he received from both fights was well deserved. Pacquiao proved it by making oscar quit and putting hatton to sleep.



You really believe agreeing to 50/50 was shocking? Yet, you said in an earlier post that you agreed it should be 50/50?
10 mil weight penalty is a non-issue. Do you see floyd cheating the scales? If not, what's the problem? Manny will have that same penalty should he come in overweight.



Why was there an expiration date? LOL! Pre-roadblock? Do you want the fight or not?



You are the type of person that is okay of being accused of something based on nothing but bull**** rumors from criminals trying to ruin you career. If not, then how are you okay with the way team mayweather went to the media spewing that bull****? You don't think manny has an ego? He's a politician. LOL!



Mayweather businessman? If he was a businessman he wouldn't come close to losing out on the biggest payday of his career.

Manny fights for the fans, but to think he doesn't care about money is just ******. He just doesn't boast/flaunt/live for money.


Fighter of the Year recipients:

2000: Felix Trinidad
2001: Bernard Hopkins
2002: Vernon Forrest
2003: James Toney (2)
2004: Glen Johnson
2005: Ricky Hatton
2006: Manny Pacquiao
2007: Floyd Mayweather Jr. (2)
2008: Manny Pacquiao (2)
2009: Manny Pacquiao (3)

Manny was fighter of the year 3 times in the last ten years.


Manny is the Fighter of the Decade.

Past FOTD recipients :

2000s Manny Pacquiao
1990s Roy Jones Jr.
1980s Sugar Ray Leonard
1970s Roberto Duran
1960s Muhamad Ali
1950s Sugar Ray Robinson

Those are some BIG NAMES.

And You have former FOTD award winner Roy Jones Jr. talking about how Manny is one of the top ATGs of all time:

Roy went on and talked about Manny's character, " I love this guy to death, to come from where he came from and to rise to where he is at right now is truly amazing. He is my kind of guy, he is a brother in Christ."

Jones commented on where he thinks Manny ranks all time, " Manny is at least in the top 3 or 4 of the all time greats in boxing. Some of the things that he has done in boxing are amazing."

Whether you believe that or not that is some pretty big praise from one of the greatest boxers ever...

so because manny wins FOTD he deserves more or 50/50?
hahaha
Manny is doing the same thing that May is
He is costing himself his biggest payday ever
Im not saying bow down to May but manny compramising is him saying ok you say up to the fight I said 14 days so give me 7 meet me half way
but manny agreeing to something that was not offered anymore is like me trying to use an expired coupon
come on now man

[Chuckguy]

here is another fact. Floyd does not make the money he will make in this "ONE" fight anywhere else, and if you say he does, just tell me which fight..

i'll wait right here...

Neither fighter will
but Floyd will def make more money in his next fights than manny will
That is guaranteed

[icedmango]

Hi,
I want this fight to happen, reality is they both need each other, so they both have to get over themselves and make it happen, this is where the money is, they need to realize this is it, if i was mayweather i would do 50/50 but only if pacquiao agrees to take ramdom blood test no cutoff, and if pacquiao still insists on 14 day cutoff then he should get 45/55, pacquiao getting 45. Sounds reasonable, at least to me, then again, i can only dream...

[| THE KING |]

so let me ask

back in Feb 2010 when Floyd told the Grand Rapids Press

"I gave him a chance, up to 14 daysout. But my new terms are all the way up to the fight. They can comeget us whenever, all the way up to the fight, random drug test. That’s what it is,” Mayweather said.

did that not precede EVERYTHING Manny agreed to recently?

in other words what I want you to answer.

How can you accept an offer that Floyd took off the table in Feb?

here is the entire article.

http://www.mlive.com/mayweather/inde...l_wonders.html



and again from the same article dated Feb 2010

And if, as expected, Mayweather-Mosley greatly outperforms Pacquiao-Clottey, 50-50 is history.

“Insteadof 20 or 25 (million dollars), he may have to drop to 15, or 17,”Mayweather said. “And you know me, they may have to throw that extrafive or 10 on mine, and we can rock and roll. Take it or leave it.”

so again I ask how can you now state 50/50 is your idea of Manny compromising when Mayweather openly stated that this offer, provided he greatly out does Pacquiao Clottey, is off the table?


simple explanation please without the whole "OMG you *****s are ridiculous you follow every word he says you dont want this fight"

bring actual knowledge not name calling please.

Why would the offer be off the table? He would receive the biggest payday of his career?

Check the post history. I talk rationale with people that can converse without insulting me or using the word *****/*******.

what changed?

lots

for one he did double what Manny's last PPV did. Yes I understand Clottey is nowhere near the popular fighter Shane is. However, the numbers do not lie and Mayweather has shown 1. consistency in drawing people to watch his fights 2. that with like opponents Mayweather has drawn more fans to view.

Exactly. When Pacquiao vs. Cotto exceeded Floyd vs. JMM ppvs.. it was still what? 50/50

for another while previously when this OST debate came up people were saying that why should we trust something that has never been done before or that the commissions should be in charge we actually now have one full high profile fight where OST seemingly worked

that my friends is indeed change but to me, Manny fans only go by what Manny says as gospel when in fact Mayweather CLEARLY stated otherwise at least 3 months prior

again how do you compromise on an offer that was rescinded back in Feb?

I am all for FULL implementation of OST throughout all of boxing, not just singling out one person. You are okay with the way the mayweathers went about spewing those baseless allegations to the media with no evidence whatsoever?

You seem like a rationale poster from what I see. You know both Manny and Floyd have HUGE egos. Manny is a congressman in the P.I., you know about politicians. You think that after team mayweather went to the media to try and destroy mannys reputation that manny would just concede to those demands?

Take mannys word as gospel? How so? I would think team mayweather came out with more outlandish statements than anything out of pacquiaos mouth. And there are videos all over to prove it.

no a Bradley win is a stellar win no matter how you slice it for either Manny or Mayweather

Maybe.. I just don't think bradley is ready for elite fighters. If Holt put him down I think Manny and Floyd would be too much for him. I'd rather the 140 lb'ers make a name for themselves and battle it out. I wouldnt want either Manny or Floyd ruining their careers, Bradley has much upside and should fight Devon/Khan/Maidana..

why? seems simple to me

Mayweather made the concessions the first go round to try and make the fight happen

Manny said no for whatever reason.

okay fine

why should Mayweather now go back to the end point of the first one? Considering the landscape indeed changed?

What concessions has mayweather made?

Gloves = 8 oz. What gloves has mayweather been using at 147?

Weight - 147 (10 mil/penalty) Do you see floyd as a cheater? If not, there is no problem as they both will have to abide by the 10 mil penalty.


Manny never said no. LOL!

Manny is now saying yes and agreeing to terms set forth by Floyd... what's the problem? Career high payday, why wait?

[switchsouthpaw]

One sided? LOL! I just stated facts that I can back up with actual proof. Why should Manny get 50-50, when Floyd makes more money in his fights than Manny?

Floyd generates more money with sponsors, live gates, and PPV sales.

What did he bring in, in terms of sponsorship dollars in his last fight?

What is the combined total of his last 3 gates?

[War Dinamita]

here is another fact. Floyd does not make the money he will make in this "ONE" fight anywhere else, and if you say he does, just tell me which fight..

i'll wait right here...

Wrong.

Floyd can easily make 40M fighting Khan in the UK in 16-24 months if he keeps winning.

I'll wait for you to tell me why Manny needs Floyd to make his biggest payday of his life.

Your post has nothing to do with my statement. Floyd has made more money than Manny and will continue to make more money than Manny after their fight if they fight.

[[ DUBBZZ ]]

pac vs Cotto rematch here we come. Seems he is not interested in fighting Mayweather.

So, if he really wants the fight, he should do what ever Floyd says? Dumb.