Comments Thread For: Pacquiao Vows To Not Budge Further To Mayweather

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because floyd is the bigger draw so he demands more. Pac got a bigger split than hatton and clottey and cotto. Why did he? The answer is easy, he was the bigger draw. Now in this fight floyd is the bigger draw so he demands more. Why is this so hard for you people to understand.

Terms that were set forth by floyd: 50/50. Why change it?
Terms that were set forth by floyd: 14 days Why change it?

[Black Dynamite]

According to a report in ABS-CBN News, WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao will not budge any further to any demands made by Floyd Mayweather Jr. Pacquiao spoke with the paper upon his arrival to Manila and said negotiations for a Mayweather fight are ongoing, but he is unsure as to the status until he speak with Top Rank CEO Bob Arum.

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Sounds like Pac don't want to fight. Why would he say he "will not budge any further to any demands made by Mayweather," yet, he doesn't know what the status is until he speaks with Arum? Either this is another bad press release, or Pac don't want to fight. For 40 plus million, I'd negotiate until the fight is done. Period.

[WESS]

I respect your opinion and wouldn't be surprised if that did happen, though I don't think that's likely. That's why the fans want to see the fight man. If it's going to be so easy for floyd, why is he making negotiations difficult. Just make an easy payday.. 50/50 will be his biggest payday. Why reject the fight.. let's hope the fight gets made.

Because its Floyd "Money" Mayweather, he's a business man in a business sport. Pac did the exact same thing with Hoya and Hatton may I remind you.

Floyd's always been about the money. The fact he "gave in" to 50-50 the first time around was shocking, let alone willing to pay 10 MILLION dollars for a weight penality JUST to make the fight.

Did people REALLY beleieve he would again (even after he said he wouldn't if he beat Mosley while selling more PPV #'s)?

Why do people think "Money" Mayweather the businessman agree to old, expired, mythical terms that where torn and burned the second Pac had hurt feelings and went to fight in court? As a bushiness perspective, why would Mayweather agree to this now?

Remember now, Mayweather's the businessman and doesn't care about his fans or the sport. Pac's the one that states he fights for his fans and that its not about the money yet we have the Hoya, Hatton and now Mayweather negations to prove otherwise.

[fcastro1]

because floyd is the bigger draw so he demands more. Pac got a bigger split than hatton and clottey and cotto. Why did he? The answer is easy, he was the bigger draw. Now in this fight floyd is the bigger draw so he demands more. Why is this so hard for you people to understand.

pac-cotto outsold the floyd-marquez fight by the same margin floyd-mosley outsold pac-cotto. But the first negotiations was 50-50 so what has changed.

[Burnthrust]

Terms that were set forth by floyd: 50/50. Why change it?
Terms that were set forth by floyd: 14 days Why change it?

He said that the second time around that it was not going to be easy. He even agreed to a 10 million dollar weight penalty the first time around. What is your comment on that?

[Burnthrust]

pac-cotto outsold the floyd-marquez fight by the same margin floyd-mosley outsold pac-cotto. But the first negotiations was 50-50 so what has changed.

And floyd - marquez out sold pac - marquez

[fcastro1]

And floyd - marquez out sold pac - marquez

the point is floyd has always known he was a bigger draw but wanted a 50-50 so why is he changing his stance now, maybe because he is trying to stall or duck.

[switchsouthpaw]

Unbelievable. Sprewell was eventually humbled, went bankrupt. Floyd might follow that same path. They both even had their yachts repo'd. lol

I'm not sure what it is, whether or not it's cultural or has to do with environment--nature vs nuture type thing, whatever would explain his ****ishness.

[War Dinamita]

And you didn't see that as one sided? LOL!

One sided? LOL! I just stated facts that I can back up with actual proof. Why should Manny get 50-50, when Floyd makes more money in his fights than Manny?

Floyd generates more money with sponsors, live gates, and PPV sales.

[Eaner0919]

These have all been beaten to death, but i'll bite.



You didn't buy anything? Why was 14 days good enough back then but not anymore? Why once manny agreed to the blood testing 14 days (floyds terms), floyd looked for another issue (60/40) split, knowing manny wouldn't accept those terms.

so let me ask

back in Feb 2010 when Floyd told the Grand Rapids Press

"I gave him a chance, up to 14 daysout. But my new terms are all the way up to the fight. They can comeget us whenever, all the way up to the fight, random drug test. That’s what it is,” Mayweather said.

did that not precede EVERYTHING Manny agreed to recently?

in other words what I want you to answer.

How can you accept an offer that Floyd took off the table in Feb?

here is the entire article.

http://www.mlive.com/mayweather/inde...l_wonders.html

Pac is willing to accept it this time to COMPROMISE and give the FANS what WE want. How hard is that to comprehend? Any boxing fan wouldn't care about this ****. Fact is Manny accepted terms that were set by Floyd himself.

and again from the same article dated Feb 2010

And if, as expected, Mayweather-Mosley greatly outperforms Pacquiao-Clottey, 50-50 is history.

“Insteadof 20 or 25 (million dollars), he may have to drop to 15, or 17,”Mayweather said. “And you know me, they may have to throw that extrafive or 10 on mine, and we can rock and roll. Take it or leave it.”

so again I ask how can you now state 50/50 is your idea of Manny compromising when Mayweather openly stated that this offer, provided he greatly out does Pacquiao Clottey, is off the table?

simple explanation please without the whole "OMG you *****s are ridiculous you follow every word he says you dont want this fight"

bring actual knowledge not name calling please.

Pac ran away? LOL! Why would he change his mind? What has changed? And Manny/Roach already stated that they would fight the Floyd/Shane winner. Manny announced that in the post fight interview with clottey.

what changed?

lots

for one he did double what Manny's last PPV did. Yes I understand Clottey is nowhere near the popular fighter Shane is. However, the numbers do not lie and Mayweather has shown 1. consistency in drawing people to watch his fights 2. that with like opponents Mayweather has drawn more fans to view.

for another while previously when this OST debate came up people were saying that why should we trust something that has never been done before or that the commissions should be in charge we actually now have one full high profile fight where OST seemingly worked

that my friends is indeed change but to me, Manny fans only go by what Manny says as gospel when in fact Mayweather CLEARLY stated otherwise at least 3 months prior

Pac backtracking? Floyd is the one backtracking taking back all the terms he set forth. Pacquiao is COMPROMISING to get this fight to happen for the FANS, yet Floyd is saying.. 'no more deal' 'i'm going to take 2 years off' .. LOL!

again how do you compromise on an offer that was rescinded back in Feb?

Manny fights Bradley, destroys him and you'll have people saying manny ducked floyd and that bradley was overrated or too green still. Manny already stated he'd fight the winner of shane/floyd at his post fight interview after the clottey fight

no a Bradley win is a stellar win no matter how you slice it for either Manny or Mayweather

How is manny cherry picking? Manny is compromising and trying to get this fight made. Floyd is making it more difficult. Not that hard to see.

why? seems simple to me

Mayweather made the concessions the first go round to try and make the fight happen

Manny said no for whatever reason.

okay fine

why should Mayweather now go back to the end point of the first one? Considering the landscape indeed changed?