Goosen calls Vitali a coward; looks to make Toney vs Byrd

[Nautilus]

Cause its a bogus deal. They wanted 60-40, which isn't even fair for Toney, and they wanted Options on Toney.

60-40 is not a bogus deal -- this is probably better than most contenders receive than when they fight champions.

What? Options? Please provide more information.

[!! Mr. Soprano]

The raging Klit fans are so quick to call Toney a piece of ****, fat ass, cheating phoney etc...

Then when the actual prospect of a fight comes around with Toney, all of a sudden Vitali "needs a tuneup". If James Toney sucks so hard why doesn't Vitali take him as his tuneup...oh wait that's right all of those Vit fans want nothing to do with Toney much like Vitali.

This is the one fight I want to see more than anything and Vitali has done everything but tucked his tail in between his legs. This is bush league.

Man,

what are you talking about??

[Bombardier]

Well, this is a personal matter.

********** often reports quicky news which turn out to be flukes.

Why should I jump on their band vagon in this matter?

On the other hand, I do not see why HBO should hide their numbers. HOB said 120K and they did say they were NOT happy with it.

P.S. You love Bush, don;t you?

Bush is my hero .

haha seriously though, I'm not trying to be an *******, I just think that it's silly to think that Vitali can outdraw Toney, because at least in North America there's no chance. You can chalk that up to national biases, or whatever, but it's a fact.

The thing is that Vitali's actions as of late have been pretty indefensible. And like a previous poster said, you can't badmouth Toney in one post and then talk about how Vitali needs a "tune-up" before fighting him in the next.

The decisions he makes in the next year or so will decide whether he has a shot at being an internationaly recognized champion or if he will be another also-ran with a big local following. That's just all there is to it.

[masterdirector]

Naughty Boy, you're losing every single argument. Get over it, seriously.

Where is your proof that Toney-Holyfield did 150 k Buys?

And better yet, where is your proof that Vitali Klitschko is straight? I've got proof, as shown above, that he's a *****.

[IMG]http://img.***********.com/albums/v239/masterdirector/******chkos.bmp[/IMG]

You've got nothing to say to that. Well, you won't find Mr.Drug Dealer Toney (as you so racially called him) in a photo even remotely similar.

[Nautilus]

The thing is that Vitali's actions as of late have been pretty indefensible. And like a previous poster said, you can't badmouth Toney in one post and then talk about how Vitali needs a "tune-up" before fighting him in the next.
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I never badmouthed Toney as a boxer. So don't pull this previous poster's b./s. on me.

Toney's trash talk sucks however, and Goose's talk is even more disgusting.

[masterdirector]

60-40 is not a bogus deal -- this is probably better than most contenders receive than when they fight champions.

What? Options? Please provide more information.

Vitali is a paper champ. Who did he beat for the title? Jabba Kirk Johnson. Wow. He's only WBC champ as a result of Lennox Lewis leaving.

Vitali's manager put **** in the contract so that Toney's people wouldn't sign it. Options, you know, like getting money from Toney not just for the Klitschko fight but for some fights after it. Nobody'd go in for that. Its a trick promoters do to protect their fighter. They make an offer that's ****ty. The opponent turns it down, so it makes the opponent look bad.

Fact is, in the last 2-3 years Toney has fought the better opposition than Klitschko. Jirov, Holyfield, and Ruiz. And he easily outboxed all of them. Jirov gave him the most trouble, lol.

[Nautilus]

... you're losing every single argument. Get over it, seriously.

Where is your proof that Toney-Holyfield did 150 k Buys?

And better yet, where is your proof that Vitali Klitschko is straight? I've got proof, as shown above, that he's a *****.


You've got nothing to say to that. Well, you won't find Mr.Drug Dealer Toney (as you so racially called him) in a photo even remotely similar.

You are ****ing ******* !!!!

[Bombardier]

I never badmouthed Toney as a boxer. So don't pull this previous poster's b./s. on me.

Toney's trash talk sucks however, and Goose's talk is even more disgusting.

My bad, I wasn't referring to you specifically, I meant posters in general. Sorry, bad use of language .

[masterdirector]

You are ****ing ******* !!!!

No, Vitali Klitschko is a ****ing *******. Or rather, he is a ****ing an *******. He's quite knowledgable on "****ing *******s" He got his PhD in it.

Let's put it this way...They don't call him Dr. IronFist because of his punches

[!! Mr. Soprano]

Just for the record, it was me calling Toney a Phony!

1) It has nothing to do with me being a Klitschko fan, as everyone knows.
2) What Oldgringo said earlier is B.S., because as a fan I would love to see nothing more than Toney laying on his fat ass and failing to beat the standing 8 count! And if it won't be Vitali, it will be someone else.

The reason for that is like Nautilus said:

Originally Posted by Nautilus
Toney's trash talk sucks however, and Goose's talk is even more disgusting.