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  • Doctor_Tenma
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    #21
    Originally posted by madsweeney
    You might be right but I think Roach has worked on a counter to this. Have you noticed Pac working on bolo punches (diagnal uppercuts). Now imagine what'd happen to Solis if Pac threw one of those instead of an left cross. He caught Cotto trying to do that, he may catch Mayweather doing the same.



    Granted Cotto ducked and tried to throw but similar body placement.
    In that video Cotto got reckless, too overconfident. Once Mayweather makes you miss (While bending down at the waist) he'll bump into you, tie you up and work some uppercuts to the midsection. Mayweather already revealed that he was gonna tie Pacquiao up and maneuver him. Steward is alot smarter then most people think, he even came out and said that Mayweather would control Pacquiao. Mayweather's approach might be similar to his approach against Hatton.

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    • MindBat
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      #22
      Originally posted by Vito Corleone
      Pacquiao hurt Marquez, Larios, and Cotto . And couldn't put them away.

      But somehow, he is gonna put away Mayweather?
      Exactly. And those guys are nowhere near Floyd's skill level.

      Funny thing is most were calling Floyd a chicken for "ducking" Mosley when Shane called him out in the ring. Most of those same people had to
      retract their remarks when not only did they agree to make the fight, but also implemented "RANDOM" blood testing for the first time in PPV boxing history.

      That was also the same Shane Mosley who practically begged Manny for a fight and who was truned down for a much lesser opponent in Joshua Clottey who blamed "liquid caca" for his loss.

      If they do fight, I have a feeling the ref will be forced to stop the fight or Manny's corner will be forced to toss the towel into the ring.

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      • madsweeney
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        #23
        Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
        In that video Cotto got reckless, too overconfident. Once Mayweather makes you miss (While bending down at the waist) he'll bump into you, tie you up and work some uppercuts to the midsection. Mayweather already revealed that he was gonna tie Pacquiao up and maneuver him. Steward is alot smarter then most people think, he even came out and said that Mayweather would control Pacquiao. Mayweather's approach might be similar to his approach against Hatton.
        Ehh, a little reckless but you can tell he saw Pac's left drop and was trying to counter it, the only problem is Pac was winding for a bolo punch, not just dropping his guard.

        Mayweather may tie Pac up but I'm not sure it'll be very effective. Pac has not let people tie up, he probably knows his inside game isnt the best and has had the footwork/speed to keep the distance. If Mayweather over extends himself trying to force a tie up he will leave holes open in his defense. And we know Floyd isn't dumb enough to force something that becomes too risky.

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        • Pullcounter
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          #24
          floyd will get outworked. he doesn't throw enough punches and he can't hurt pac.

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            #25
            Originally posted by madsweeney
            Ehh, a little reckless but you can tell he saw Pac's left drop and was trying to counter it, the only problem is Pac was winding for a bolo punch, not just dropping his guard.

            Mayweather may tie Pac up but I'm not sure it'll be very effective. Pac has not let people tie up, he probably knows his inside game isnt the best and has had the footwork/speed to keep the distance. If Mayweather over extends himself trying to force a tie up he will leave holes open in his defense. And we know Floyd isn't dumb enough to force something that becomes too risky.
            Floyd ties you up fast so Pacquiao is not gonna have time to do his non-existent insdie game.Plus Floyd is a better inside fighter.

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            • B.U.R.N.E.R
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              #26
              Originally posted by MmuhammadM
              One of the key ingredients in truly objective analysis is one must put aside emotion because 99.9% of the time emotion detracts from rational thought. However, in contrast passion will almost always enhance rational thought because it drives one to educate oneself in a matter.

              Lets give it a try…I have always admired Pacman since his fight with Barrera. It was so refreshing to see the passion in a young fighter like Pacman displayed against a smart and technically sound fighter like Barrera. Pacman is a great fighter period. The excitement buzz and passion he brings to a fight ..and lets not forget the huge “Heart” is what has catapulted Manny to the top of the boxing game today.

              Yet, even with all these attributes Manny will not beat “Mayweather”. And we will see this fight make no mistake about it! Here are the reasons in order of importance:

              1. Defensive brilliance.

              2. Speed and all important “Timing”.

              3. Boxing intelligence. (watch the Marquez fight again)

              4. Ability to take a “bomb” actually two.. (The Mosley fight)

              5. Strength (Mosley was shocked at the “strength of “Mayweather” ..he could not muscle “Floyd” around the ring… and Floyd stood toe to toe throughout the fight. Margarito could not do this against “Shane”).

              6.Ability to adapt in the ring.

              7. Unprecedented connect percentage… Manny takes too many punches…and he will be hit often and clean.


              Summary: Remember this reply…it will serve as a blue print and a round by round breakdown of the “Fight”.:

              I await your responses..............

              BTW if you want an explanation for the red K, I will provide you with one via PM.

              EDIT: red K has gone, but I'll still PM you about how I got it if you want. Just inform me.
              Physically these fighters are even. They are both fast, both strong , both good fighters.

              I think overall Floyd is the more polished better fighter and Pac is the more explosive fighter.

              However what separates these two isnt skill or speed or resume. Its smarts. The smarter fighter will win.

              What I have come to realize is that Floyd doesnt fight with his fists he fights with his brain. Watch the Shane Mosley fight. The adjustments he make are so ridiculous. He gets hit with 2 huge right hands in round 2. Shane goes the next 30 minutes without landing another right hand.

              Adjustments. Floyd has that down to a science. He will find a weakness and poke and prod at it until his opponent is mentally and physically beaten up.

              Against Pac will be no different. He will find something that works. Most think it will be the lead right. And to a certain extent I agree that is the pucnh that will light Manny up alot.

              BUT.....

              Floyds jab is laser accurate and blazing fast. It didnt miss Shane once. When Floyd threw it Shane had no idea what to do. Floyds jab will be important than his lead right. The lead right is always there but the Jab will make that lead right even more deadly when he throws it.

              Also watch for body punching. Vs. Lefties Floyd attacks the body relentlessly.

              Corley, Judah, and Mitchell got pounded to the body. Mitchell was stopped to the body and Judah was hurt to the body several times. Floyds body punching is nuts and goes unnoticed to the casual viewer. Pacs body will be attacked and hard.

              Lastly...

              Watch for inside fighting. Watch the clinches. Watch how Floyd maneuvers on the inside. Pac is not a good inside fighter. Floyds is hard to hit on the inside and he can still get off laser right hands and hard body shots on the inside. I dont think this fight will be competitive or close in any shape form or fashion.

              Floyd will win almost every round. Early rounds will be Floyds but he will turn it up later in the fight and do more damage.

              I got Floyd 10 rounds to 2. Or late stoppage around Round 10.

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              • Vadrigar.
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                #27
                Originally posted by Pullcounter
                floyd will get outworked. he doesn't throw enough punches and he can't hurt pac.
                Floyds countering ability can offset and disrupt pacquaio's work rate.

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                • joesaiditstrue
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by NesNY
                  none of those reasons change the FACT that Corley, a southpaw, buzzed him pretty nicely.
                  i haven't watched the corley/may fight in a few months, but wasn't it Corley's right hand that buzzed Mayweather, just like Shane's right hand?

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                  • Vadrigar.
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by joesaiditstrue
                    i haven't watched the corley/may fight in a few months, but wasn't it Corley's right hand that buzzed Mayweather, just like Shane's right hand?
                    I watched the corely fight recently but I can't remember now.

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                    • scap
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                      #30
                      Couple things each guy does that will surprise you come fight night...

                      Mayweather-His power is underrated and he shots are so clean and so flush I expect him to bother Pac.

                      Pac-His footwork is incredible and he will be able to turn Mayweather like a top putting Floyd in compromising positions.

                      Can Pac get Floyd to exchange with him? (If he can Floyd's in trouble)

                      Can Floyd keep the fight at his pace in the center of the ring? (If he can Pac is in trouble)

                      Can Floyd keep the punch output even? (If he can Pac is in trouble)

                      Can Pac out throw Floyd by 120-150 punches over 12 rounds? (If he can Floyd is in trouble)

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