Do you think Arthur Abraham did it on purpose?

[SUPREME.]

Just to be clear. Doing something because you are very frustrated does not mean that you did not do it on purpose.

Lol, I was about to say the same thing. Took the words right out of my mouth.
I don't give anyone a pass on doing something 'because they were frustrated'.

[keepthemhandsup]

Just to be clear. Doing something because you are very frustrated does not mean that you did not do it on purpose.

i mean i know that people do stuff when they ARE frustrated
i guess i could say it was the heat of the moment

[Bierstadt]

Just to be clear. Doing something because you are very frustrated does not mean that you did not do it on purpose.

Yeah, I think the word "purpose" has mixed meanings in this context. It was not an accidental punch, so it was surely on purpose. But it was NOT on purpose in the sense that Abraham is not some murdering scumbag who's purpose was to decapitate Dirrell.

Get an English teacher in here, please.


Was it intentional? Yes. Did he have a completely clear grasp of the situation? I don't think so.
Frustration combined with desperation can hugely impact a fighter's judgment. I forgive Abraham, but he has no excuse.

[SirTomJones]

I think it was out of character and was out of frustration.

[SUPREME.]

Yeah, I think the word "purpose" has mixed meanings in this context. It was not an accidental punch, so it was surely on purpose. But it was NOT on purpose in the sense that Abraham is not some murdering scumbag who's purpose was to decapitate Dirrell.

Get an English teacher in here, please.


Was it intentional? Yes. Did he have a completely clear grasp of the situation? I don't think so.
Frustration combined with desperation can hugely impact a fighter's judgment. I forgive Abraham, but he has no excuse.

So you're saying, he meant to sucker punch him, but with good intentions.

[Hitman932]

Was it intentional? Yes. Did he have a completely clear grasp of the situation? I don't think so.
Frustration combined with desperation can hugely impact a fighter's judgment. I forgive Abraham, but he has no excuse.

I agree, and as you said no excuse. But of course he had several of them right after the fight that were pretty disgraceful imo.

Looking back the DQ didn't make him look half as bad as his insinuations after the fight that Dirrell was faking.

I interviewed Abraham face to face before the fight and asked him several questions about what he was expecting from Dirrell. I don't think a fighter has ever underestimated an opponent as much as Abraham did Dirrell. He truly believed Dirrell was just gonna run around like a girl until he landed one big punch and then goodnight.

I asked him what he expects Dirrell to do differently from the Froch fight and he said "Nothing, all he can do is run. " and then he laughed like he was some comedian.

The fact that he truly believed it was such an easy fight led to him being much more frustrated than we can even imagine.

But ultimately Abraham's frustration was as much a result of him being mad at himself for half assing his training and being ******ly naieve about his opponents skills level as it was about the actual butt kicking he was taking in the ring.

[Bierstadt]

I agree, and as you said no excuse. But of course he had several of them right after the fight that were pretty disgraceful imo.

Looking back the DQ didn't make him look half as bad as his insinuations after the fight that Dirrell was faking.

I interviewed Abraham face to face before the fight and asked him several questions about what he was expecting from Dirrell. I don't think a fighter has ever underestimated an opponent as much as Abraham did Dirrell. He truly believed Dirrell was just gonna run around like a girl until he landed one big punch and then goodnight.

I asked him what he expects Dirrell to do differently from the Froch fight and he said "Nothing, all he can do is run. " and then he laughed like he was some comedian.

The fact that he truly believed it was such an easy fight led to him being much more frustrated than we can even imagine.

But ultimately Abraham's frustration was as much a result of him being mad at himself for half assing his training and being ******ly naieve about his opponents skills level as it was about the actual butt kicking he was taking in the ring.

I must admit, as an AA fan I was very skeptical of Dirrell when he lay there. But after I cooled down I could only blame Abraham. And his post-fight antics didn't help his image much either. I don't personally know him, but I am acquainted with people who do, and they all assure me that he's a nice guy but when it comes to boxing he's very sure of himself to a point that he might come off as arrogant, which he is not.

I can only hope that he has learned from this fight. I truly believe now that it was the best thing that could have happened to him. When a fighter goes undefeated for too long they tend to lose grasp of reality.

I wish best of luck to Dirrell. And am looking forward to the new and improved Abraham against Froch.

[Dick Buffman]

Whatever the hell that means. Dirrell should have gotten 3 points for kicking his ass so bad that he Dq'd himself on purpose.

It means its not AA's fault Dirrell has such a hard time staying on his feet. Plus the shot was in the heat of the moment.

protect yourself at all times is the name of the game.

If that fight was anywhere else , the ref would've began counting the minute Dirrell got cracked with that beautiful punch. I knew it would happen anyway, I said Dirrell would get a makeup call in that fight before it happened.

[SUPREME.]

Lol @ Dirrell having a hard time staying on his feet?
Did you actually watch the fight?
He slipped on a wet advertising label...

If a person slips they need not to protect themself, they are legally down and their opponent should back away.

[Dick Buffman]

Lol @ Dirrell having a hard time staying on his feet?
Did you actually watch the fight?
He slipped on a wet advertising label...

If a person slips they need not to protect themself, they are legally down and their opponent should back away.

The question is have you seen Dirrell fight? He falls all over the ring in all his fights.

How is he legally down? Its protect yourself at all times. Just like you don't look away at the ref or turn your back on your opponent. (See Mayweather/Gatti)

If you "fall", you should at least cover up or grab your opponent.