Erik Morales Vs Manny Pacquiao - Excuses Exposed

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This one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB1vqJj9GvI

You wanted manny to fight zahir raheem? For what? Manny rematched morales for 3 main points.

1) Avenge his loss. (Who wouldn't?)

2) It was already set up for them to have a rematch.

3) Way more money fighting morales than raheem

4) Got his gloves (LOL!.. just playin)

To be real, zahir raheem isn't even a HOF'er. He would have been a minute spec in pacquiaos career, just like ledwaba & sasakul (people tend to overlook them and say they were nobodies, though they were highly ranked fighters before manny beat them)..

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I can answer this one very easily......

This does NOT expose Manny. It only exposes Manny's haters!!!

Before Manny fought the first time, Morales fought Barrera 4 months earlier and lost. Please show me all the Barrera exposed videos?

When Manny vs Morales I happened, nobody was saying anything because Morales won but because Morales lost the second at the SAME weight as the first fight, we get these exposed video. Well, in their second fight, Morales was doing fine and was leading by 3 rounds at one point. At that point all of the HBO commentators had written Manny off and said, ....listen to this,,,, "Morales is too big for Manny" .... "Manny belongs at 126" ..... "Manny fights better at the lower weights" .... "Morales is in control of the fight"

Only after Manny comes back and has a very strong round does things change. It took several clean shots to the head of Morales to change things around. Not just Morales but any fighter would have felt those blows to the head ....

As for those pictures you put, we can do that with many fighters.... For those who say, how could Morales get down to 130, Morales won titles at lower weight divisions too. Morales was a tall guy for those divisions so he never looked bulky at a weighin.


Also, why are you showing the Morales vs Diaz picture. Morales lost in that one!!! lol!!!!


Now, I wouldn't have minded seeing Morales fight Pacquiao at 132 but when you come to think about it they were fighting at 130 for super featherweight title. If you want to come in at higher weights then you need to either fight for the lightweight title or no title!!! .... but as I said, they were fighting for the 130 belts. Right?

As for Zahir Raheem. Morales fought him in 2005. Manny moved up to 135 in 2008 .... So Manny fighting Raheem just didn't make sense especially when Raheem lost his next fight!!!


In summary, this exposing of Manny is a joke. You can take anything and everything out of context and you can make it too look exactly like you want it. Plus, if Morales was the only elite fighter that Manny faced then one may bear some credence to those videos/comments..... but Manny had fought and beaten a prime Barrera that had no excuses and nothing to state that Manny is an exposed boxer......

Good post! I didn't want to have to type all that for a topic that has been done to death, but you did a great job.

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Well of course, pacquaio had already figured out a way to carry up his power with weight, whereas morales had already been drained and KO'd.

Pac has been drained and Ko'd as well. I'm quite sure that the owner of the OP's first video ( who is very proud of his works that he tend to show them 2x-3x has a copy of that. I recognized the signature very well. Lolz.


I thought the point of this thread is to show that Pac deliberately drained Morales and thus your aim was to discredit the Morales win and expose pac's excuse for the first fight. This would imply that you would prefer a 135 or at least greater than 130 fight for the rematch. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

But in hindsight and basing on their 135 performance, IMO, Morales would get a worst beating. But you are agreeing with me so it does not make sense. What exactly is the point of this thread?

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Good post! I didn't want to have to type all that for a topic that has been done to death, but you did a great job.

Thanks T.I.

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because.....?

its evidence

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I can answer this one very easily......

This does NOT expose Manny. It only exposes Manny's haters!!!

Before Manny fought the first time, Morales fought Barrera 4 months earlier and lost. Please show me all the Barrera exposed videos?

When Manny vs Morales I happened, nobody was saying anything because Morales won but because Morales lost the second at the SAME weight as the first fight, we get these exposed video. Well, in their second fight, Morales was doing fine and was leading by 3 rounds at one point. At that point all of the HBO commentators had written Manny off and said, ....listen to this,,,, "Morales is too big for Manny" .... "Manny belongs at 126" ..... "Manny fights better at the lower weights" .... "Morales is in control of the fight"

Only after Manny comes back and has a very strong round does things change. It took several clean shots to the head of Morales to change things around. Not just Morales but any fighter would have felt those blows to the head ....

As for those pictures you put, we can do that with many fighters.... For those who say, how could Morales get down to 130, Morales won titles at lower weight divisions too. Morales was a tall guy for those divisions so he never looked bulky at a weighin.


Also, why are you showing the Morales vs Diaz picture. Morales lost in that one!!! lol!!!!


Now, I wouldn't have minded seeing Morales fight Pacquiao at 132 but when you come to think about it they were fighting at 130 for super featherweight title. If you want to come in at higher weights then you need to either fight for the lightweight title or no title!!! .... but as I said, they were fighting for the 130 belts. Right?

As for Zahir Raheem. Morales fought him in 2005. Manny moved up to 135 in 2008 .... So Manny fighting Raheem just didn't make sense especially when Raheem lost his next fight!!!


In summary, this exposing of Manny is a joke. You can take anything and everything out of context and you can make it too look exactly like you want it. Plus, if Morales was the only elite fighter that Manny faced then one may bear some credence to those videos/comments..... but Manny had fought and beaten a prime Barrera that had no excuses and nothing to state that Manny is an exposed boxer......

ok fine I've conceded. Great post. You know your stuff.

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ok fine I've conceded. Great post. You know your stuff.

Thanks MmuhammadM!

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Thanks MmuhammadM!

Think of this as an exam paper. It was a just a critical thinking test to see if pacquiao fans could unpick a flawed argument.

Well, you certainly passed the test!

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OP updated.

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You wanted manny to fight zahir raheem? For what? Manny rematched morales for 3 main points.

1) Avenge his loss. (Who wouldn't?)

2) It was already set up for them to have a rematch.

3) Way more money fighting morales than raheem

4) Got his gloves (LOL!.. just playin)

To be real, zahir raheem isn't even a HOF'er. He would have been a minute spec in pacquiaos career, just like ledwaba & sasakul (people tend to overlook them and say they were nobodies, though they were highly ranked fighters before manny beat them)..

ok fine I've conceded. Great post. You know your stuff.