Erik Morales Vs Manny Pacquiao - Excuses Exposed

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  • ummeed
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    #141
    Originally posted by MmuhammadM
    Hardly propaganda. First hand live observers at the weigh in made the "raisin" comment. It's not the exact quote, but something similar to that effect.

    The raisin comment is in the documentary I posted, but I can't find the succeeding parts.

    Actually maybe you're right.........................I'm probably Joseph Goebbels 2.0 (sarcasm)
    you do know that you don't really have to make the comments yourself in order to transmit propaganda right?

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    • Vadrigar.
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      #142
      Originally posted by ummeed
      you do know that you don't really have to make the comments yourself in order to transmit propaganda right?
      Did the zahir raheem fight happen? Was that fight a propaganda stunt?

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        #143
        Originally posted by MmuhammadM
        Did the zahir raheem fight happen? Was that fight a propaganda stunt?
        What about zahir raheem?

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        • Vadrigar.
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          #144
          Originally posted by T.I.
          What about zahir raheem?
          The question I asked.

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            #145
            Originally posted by MmuhammadM
            The question I asked.
            Which zahir raheem fight are you referring to?

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            • ummeed
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              #146
              Originally posted by MmuhammadM
              Did the zahir raheem fight happen? Was that fight a propaganda stunt?
              ok, yes, raheem did beat morales. what does it have to do with you denying propaganda just because you didn't make those comments yourself?

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                #147
                Originally posted by ummeed
                ok, yes, raheem did beat morales. what does it have to do with you denying propaganda just because you didn't make those comments yourself?
                It's not propaganda.

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                • Vadrigar.
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                  #148
                  Originally posted by T.I.
                  Which zahir raheem fight are you referring to?
                  This one:

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                  • ADP02
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                    #149
                    I can answer this one very easily......

                    This does NOT expose Manny. It only exposes Manny's haters!!!

                    Before Manny fought the first time, Morales fought Barrera 4 months earlier and lost. Please show me all the Barrera exposed videos?

                    When Manny vs Morales I happened, nobody was saying anything because Morales won but because Morales lost the second at the SAME weight as the first fight, we get these exposed video. Well, in their second fight, Morales was doing fine and was leading by 3 rounds at one point. At that point all of the HBO commentators had written Manny off and said, ....listen to this,,,, "Morales is too big for Manny" .... "Manny belongs at 126" ..... "Manny fights better at the lower weights" .... "Morales is in control of the fight"

                    Only after Manny comes back and has a very strong round does things change. It took several clean shots to the head of Morales to change things around. Not just Morales but any fighter would have felt those blows to the head ....

                    As for those pictures you put, we can do that with many fighters.... For those who say, how could Morales get down to 130, Morales won titles at lower weight divisions too. Morales was a tall guy for those divisions so he never looked bulky at a weighin.


                    Also, why are you showing the Morales vs Diaz picture. Morales lost in that one!!! lol!!!!


                    Now, I wouldn't have minded seeing Morales fight Pacquiao at 132 but when you come to think about it they were fighting at 130 for super featherweight title. If you want to come in at higher weights then you need to either fight for the lightweight title or no title!!! .... but as I said, they were fighting for the 130 belts. Right?

                    As for Zahir Raheem. Morales fought him in 2005. Manny moved up to 135 in 2008 .... So Manny fighting Raheem just didn't make sense especially when Raheem lost his next fight!!!


                    In summary, this exposing of Manny is a joke. You can take anything and everything out of context and you can make it too look exactly like you want it. Plus, if Morales was the only elite fighter that Manny faced then one may bear some credence to those videos/comments..... but Manny had fought and beaten a prime Barrera that had no excuses and nothing to state that Manny is an exposed boxer......
                    Last edited by ADP02; 06-22-2010, 02:30 AM.

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                    • ummeed
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                      #150
                      Originally posted by MmuhammadM
                      It's not propaganda.
                      because.....?

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