I think Ward is a KO waiting to happen myself.

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  • Jatt
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    #11
    Im still not impressed with Wards power and accuracy

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    • V.WEBB
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      #12
      You say he got rocked bad..what rounds? I have it recorded.

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      • Iceta Lives
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        #13
        Originally posted by sicko
        I don't know, with that style it is going to be tough to land clean Power Shots against Ward to Knock Him Out or even Knock Him Down, Hopkins uses that same style and Bernard haven't been KO'd and he hasn't been Knocked Down much during his great career, it might be "boring" to watch for some but it is extremely effective
        Ward's defense is nowhere near as good as Hopkins or Mayweather. Let's not kid ourselves here. The reason he looked good against Kessler and Green is because they were tailor made for them. They were like deers caught in head lights.

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        • Dynamite Kid
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          #14
          The biggest problem i see for Ward is that he has a tendency to jump in with punches but occasionally throws them from the wrong distance, meaning, if he gets in there with someone who can time his rushes, step back and nail him with a counter, he could be in trouble, also, he has a tendency to gravitate toward the ropes, but with a wide stance, too wide imo, that could leave him open to someone who double/triples the jab and comes with the big right hand, particularly as he likes to circle to the left a lot, now Kessler in theory should of been able to take advantage of this, but Kessler attacks in straight lines and can be offset by movement, he needs a stationary target in order to get off, however, if, like i said, a fighter can cut the ring down(as Cotto did against Foreman) whilst doubling/tripling the jab and throwing the right hand, Ward will get nailed imo.


          I think J D Jackson's plan for Green was to stalk him and make him take the lead, where by he might throw one of those punches where he leaves himself open and Green can counter him coming in, problem is, Green is not a particularly good counter puncher, plus he goes to pieces in big fights and stops punching.

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          • sicko
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            #15
            Originally posted by Iceta Lives
            Ward's defense is nowhere near as good as Hopkins or Mayweather. Let's not kid ourselves here. The reason he looked good against Kessler and Green is because they were tailor made for them. They were like deers caught in head lights.

            I disagree, Ward defense and head movement is pretty good, of course it is not on the level of Mayweather or Hopkins, I never said it was, Ward is only 26, he will only get better with every fight

            reason why I say he will be tough to KO is because he does a good job not allowing his opponents to get off offensively, the way he uses his clinch is legal and effective just like Hopkins uses it, Ward is already great at disrupting his opponents rhythm offensively, it would take a skilled BOXER with good footwork and speed to beat him, that is why I say Dirrell will be his toughest test because Dirrell has the speed and the footwork to get out and stay away from the clinches
            Last edited by sicko; 06-20-2010, 12:31 PM.

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            • Doctor_Tenma
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              #16
              Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
              The biggest problem i see for Ward is that he has a tendency to jump in with punches but occasionally throws them from the wrong distance, meaning, if he gets in there with someone who can time his rushes, step back and nail him with a counter, he could be in trouble, also, he has a tendency to gravitate toward the ropes, but with a wide stance, too wide imo, that could leave him open to someone who double/triples the jab and comes with the big right hand, particularly as he likes to circle to the left a lot, now Kessler in theory should of been able to take advantage of this, but Kessler attacks in straight lines and can be offset by movement, he needs a stationary target in order to get off, however, if, like i said, a fighter can cut the ring down(as Cotto did against Foreman) whilst doubling/tripling the jab and throwing the right hand, Ward will get nailed imo.


              I think J D Jackson's plan for Green was to stalk him and make him take the lead, where by he might throw one of those punches where he leaves himself open and Green can counter him coming in, problem is, Green is not a particularly good counter puncher, plus he goes to pieces in big fights and stops punching.
              Too funny, I was actually thinking about how I would go about facing Andre Ward and Miguel Cotto popped into my head!

              This was last night during the fight too!

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              • steeluv
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                #17
                He doesn't need to fight Bad Chad to get n the p4p list, and he would have to fight 3 more in the super six and then fight Bute before he goes up. I wouldn't totally rule him out of beating Dawson, cause Bad Chad aint fought anyone in Wards class unless u talking about a bunch of pensioners who aint got the stamina or activity that Ward gives u.

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                • Dynamite Kid
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
                  Too funny, I was actually thinking about how I would go about facing Andre Ward and Miguel Cotto popped into my head!

                  This was last night during the fight too!
                  No way

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                  • steeluv
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Iceta Lives
                    Ward's defense is nowhere near as good as Hopkins or Mayweather. Let's not kid ourselves here. The reason he looked good against Kessler and Green is because they were tailor made for them. They were like deers caught in head lights.
                    kessler aint that bad.. he just seemed to not have his counterpunching game where it should have been. Green was going to be tough for the early rounds thats all though
                    Last edited by steeluv; 06-20-2010, 12:37 PM.

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                    • Iceta Lives
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by steeluv
                      He doesn't need to fight Bad Chad to get n the p4p list, and he would have to fight 3 more in the super six and then fight Bute before he goes up. I wouldn't totally rule him out of beating Dawson, cause Bad Chad aint fought anyone in Wards class unless u talking about a bunch of pensioners who aint got the stamina or activity that Ward gives u.
                      I wouldn't totally rule out Ward beating Dawson either, because Dawson lacks an inside game even though his inside fighting isn't horrible at the same time though. But even still, I'd favor Dawson. And I think Tavoris Cloud would beat Ward too. Of course one of the reasons are because he's bigger and has more power. But it's also because his punching technique is better. 168 has fighters that are decent that match up with each other I think. But Cloud and Dawson I think are more than capable of beating all of them.

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