I think Ward is a KO waiting to happen myself.

**-PANDA-** · 06-20-2010, 10:25 AM

ward has flaws just like any other fighter, if you look at ward's style closely he isnt wide open at all, he keeps his guard up for the first half of a fight and then lures opponents in to counter from angles by timing them while purposely leaving himself open but not to be hit

Wait until he gets in with someone who is well rounded with skills, power, and the heart to go with it and he'll be in trouble.

the fighter you just described would give mayweather and pac trouble too....

**PensionKiller** · 06-20-2010, 10:29 AM

Originally posted by Iceta Lives

He'll win the tournament I think. And he may even be able to beat Bute. But if he moves up to 175 I think Dawson would outpoint him and I think Tavoris Cloud would definitely put up a better fight against him than Allan Green did. And Ward couldn't afford to get reckless swinging wide left hooks like he did. If you notice Green rocked him really bad a couple times in the fight and Ward tried to act like it didn't affect him, but it did. Wait until he gets in with someone who is well rounded with skills, power, and the heart to go with it and he'll be in trouble. I honestly wonder if he can even beat Bute, and people know I'm not a Bute fan either.

People who say things like Ward is a future P4P star really do overlook the flaws that he has. He's still wide open and his left hook is garbage, which in turn makes him vulnerable against someone who has a better one which Green actually had. It's just that he's an uncoordinated dolt who couldn't capitalize and he let Ward clinch him right after he was hurt.

No one at 168 can beat him.

They all have flaws, and Bute has just been hyped up too much now. Andrade and ***ing Miranda are easier than Kessler and Green. Even when MirNDA BEAT gREEN, gREEN LOST A LOT FO COLON.

The colon helps absorb nutrients etc into your body. At world elvel you need your diet to be perfect

**jrosales13** · 06-20-2010, 10:29 AM

Ward is a fundamental multi-dimensional fighter.

However, I am still not sure how good his chin is.

**jrosales13** · 06-20-2010, 10:30 AM

Originally posted by PensionKiller

No one at 168 can beat him.

They all have flaws, and Bute has just been hyped up too much now. Andrade and ***ing Miranda are easier than Kessler and Green. Even when MirNDA BEAT gREEN, gREEN LOST A LOT FO COLON.

The colon helps absorb nutrients etc into your body. At world elvel you need your diet to be perfect

You know what.... With the performance that Green put up last night. I am not even buying that excuse anymore against Miranda.

**Iceta Lives** · 06-20-2010, 10:40 AM

Originally posted by PensionKiller

No one at 168 can beat him.

They all have flaws, and Bute has just been hyped up too much now. Andrade and ***ing Miranda are easier than Kessler and Green. Even when MirNDA BEAT gREEN, gREEN LOST A LOT FO COLON.

The colon helps absorb nutrients etc into your body. At world elvel you need your diet to be perfect

Just because nobody at 168 can beat him doesn't mean he's not beatable though. That's the point I'm trying to make in this thread. And people don't want to address my opinion about his left hook being whack it seems like. When I saw Green counter him after that, it reminded me of how Darchinyan walked right into Donaire's punches.

Kessler, Abraham, and Froch are really basic even though they have power. So I'm not using those guys as measuring sticks to how Ward would match up with guys like Dawson, Cloud, and Bute.

**SkillspayBills** · 06-20-2010, 10:52 AM

Dawson beats Ward. I always say the worst style for someone is the person that does everything better than you do and that's Dawson. Although I wouldn't be too shocked if Ward pulls it out. He reminds me of SRL NOT IN SKILLSET but in focus. Look at his eyes in a fight, they are like a ****ing frogs, big as **** totally focused on his opponent for every second of every round. Every fighter has flaws, and he can be beaten but we shall see how he fairs against adversity.

**Iceta Lives** · 06-20-2010, 10:55 AM

I know it's objective to some people whether Green could beat Clinton Woods or not (but I think Green loses to a lot of gate keepers out there and already has), but watch Cloud-Woods and then you'll see how to throw a left hook. Ward doesn't know how to throw one.

**DJWho** · 06-20-2010, 11:43 AM

So it sounds like yall are just over looking Andre Dirrell, like thats an easy win already.

**sicko** · 06-20-2010, 11:51 AM

I don't know, with that style it is going to be tough to land clean Power Shots against Ward to Knock Him Out or even Knock Him Down, Hopkins uses that same style and Bernard haven't been KO'd and he hasn't been Knocked Down much during his great career, it might be "boring" to watch for some but it is extremely effective

I think Ward is a KO waiting to happen myself.