Floyd v Manny should not be 50/50

**edgarg** · 06-19-2010, 06:18 PM

Originally posted by Jermaine83

I believe the fight is almost done apart from the money split.
Now,dont get me wrong, I hope this fight gets made but why is Manny asking for 50/50?
I understand Manny has a lot of support and I am one who will pay to see either Floyd or Pac against nearly anybody but boxing is a business as we all know and if Floyd does more ppv buys than Manny against common opponents then Floyd deserves the bigger split.that is common sense.
Now this is not rocket science so why,oh why is Manny adamant to getting 50/50??
I dont agree in comparing the Pac - Clottey fight to the Floyd-Mosley cause as we all know Clottey cant draw ppv's,so i will ignore that fight but look at the numbers against the same opponents.
Oscar,Marquez and Hatton.total up those ppvs and its not even close.I think 60/40 is ok but because of the magnitude of this fight maybe Floyd should swallow his pride and settle for 55/45 instead and hopefully Manny does the sensible thing and accepts this.after all Manny claims he does not fight for the money so there shouldnt be a problem.
Anyway guys,let me know what you think.
Peace.

What I think is that the mutual opponents can not be more than a very loose "proof" of anything. When Manny fought Hatton, he had already been beatewn by Mayweather and exposed as a one dimensional mauler.

When he fought Oscar he was fighting a guy already beaten by Mayweather, and deemed as not being capable of any more reasonable performances.

As for Marquez. those fights took place when PPV was not nearly as big a business as now, and, the reason that Mayweather brought in more fans than Manny was because, having beaten the mutual opponents well, he was shaping up, more and more into a very tough opponent for Manny.

Not to ignore the fact of the intensive publicity and the travelling circus starring the 2 fighters, their managers, their trainers, their propmoters etc.etc.

Just my opinion

**Deep Blue 1997** · 06-19-2010, 06:35 PM

Originally posted by Jermaine83

I believe the fight is almost done apart from the money split.
Now,dont get me wrong, I hope this fight gets made but why is Manny asking for 50/50?
I understand Manny has a lot of support and I am one who will pay to see either Floyd or Pac against nearly anybody but boxing is a business as we all know and if Floyd does more ppv buys than Manny against common opponents then Floyd deserves the bigger split.that is common sense.
Now this is not rocket science so why,oh why is Manny adamant to getting 50/50??
I dont agree in comparing the Pac - Clottey fight to the Floyd-Mosley cause as we all know Clottey cant draw ppv's,so i will ignore that fight but look at the numbers against the same opponents.
Oscar,Marquez and Hatton.total up those ppvs and its not even close.I think 60/40 is ok but because of the magnitude of this fight maybe Floyd should swallow his pride and settle for 55/45 instead and hopefully Manny does the sensible thing and accepts this.after all Manny claims he does not fight for the money so there shouldnt be a problem.
Anyway guys,let me know what you think.
Peace.

55/45 truly is reasonable. . . outselling Pac against similar opponents as well as their last bouts.

and i don't understand how Pac does not fight for the money,

when Ricky Hatton was asking for 50/50 Manny would not budge

so it's hypocritical to be against Floyd asking for 50/50 but be ok when demanded by Manny.

. . .but both need to man up, they need to make this fight

**DIB42** · 06-19-2010, 06:37 PM

Originally posted by edgarg

When he fought Oscar he was fighting a guy already beaten by Mayweather, and deemed as not being capable of any more reasonable performances.

I disagree on the reasoning for this one... I nearly didn't buy this fight because i thought it was just a freakshow fight. I thought oscar would just destroy manny, and i didn't think it was fair and was actually upset by the matchup... I got the fight anyway because i'm addicted to boxing and i have a problem, turned out to be an increadible display by manny. but i think this fight didn't do so well because alot of people, and writers viewed the fight as a joke and a set-up for oscar to retire with a win over a named fighter.

In a perfect world i think they should fight 40/40 with winner getting the additional 20 or fight 45/45 and 10 to the winner... but that wouldn't happen.

I think floyd should get the larger split if it doesn't go 50/50 because Pac made the mistake of fighting Clottey, if Pac had fought a bigger named guy and drawn more ppv, he could make an argument for it, but now it looks like Mayweather is the bigger draw.

**maguirre** · 06-19-2010, 07:19 PM

Originally posted by mr.applesauce

55/45 truly is reasonable. . . outselling Pac against similar opponents as well as their last bouts.

and i don't understand how Pac does not fight for the money,

when Ricky Hatton was asking for 50/50 Manny would not budge

so it's hypocritical to be against Floyd asking for 50/50 but be ok when demanded by Manny.

. . .but both need to man up, they need to make this fight

I keep scratching my head why they keep bringing up this ****** Hatton/Pac thing. Is Hatton on the level of Pac now?! It's obvious the level of respect for the 7 title holder in 7 weight division is non-existent for these morons. I almost suspect this is racially motivated.

**slickfox** · 06-19-2010, 07:27 PM

Originally posted by Cgarcia

I keep scratching my head why they keep bringing up this ****** Hatton/Pac thing. Is Hatton on the level of Pac now?! It's obvious the disrespect for the 7 title holder in 7 weight division is non-existent for these morons. I almost suspect this is racially motivated.

no one cares if he is a 12 weight division champ, if floyd draws more $ he deserves more. Manny had a chance to get 50/50 and he didnt take it so now he is gonna end up settling for less. There are some people that care how much floyd puts into his pocket but I dont give an F about that, if it were up to me this would be 50/50 contract signed end of story. 60/40 is ridiculous....20% difference of about a 120M pot is 25M diff in$ and thats just going overboard. 55/45 or 53/47 is the max split floyd should be asking for.

**JK1700** · 06-19-2010, 07:29 PM

I think Floyd should get 60-40

But Pacquiao and Roach want as much money as they can get so its not easy to get a deal like that. If I was Richard Schaefer I would try to get a "60 to the winner and 40 to the loser" situation. I think both guys would agree to that.

**maguirre** · 06-19-2010, 07:31 PM

Yeah, give the boring boxer what he wants so we can see the fight. Give him 80/20 for all I care. ****** Floyd stans would be jumping with joy for that.

**Jermaine83** · 06-20-2010, 04:17 AM

Originally posted by edgarg

What I think is that the mutual opponents can not be more than a very loose "proof" of anything. When Manny fought Hatton, he had already been beatewn by Mayweather and exposed as a one dimensional mauler.

When he fought Oscar he was fighting a guy already beaten by Mayweather, and deemed as not being capable of any more reasonable performances.

As for Marquez. those fights took place when PPV was not nearly as big a business as now, and, the reason that Mayweather brought in more fans than Manny was because, having beaten the mutual opponents well, he was shaping up, more and more into a very tough opponent for Manny.

Not to ignore the fact of the intensive publicity and the travelling circus starring the 2 fighters, their managers, their trainers, their propmoters etc.etc.

Just my opinion

bros, i respect this is what you fell but this is just a bunch of excuses because if it was pac outselling floyd this way these excuses would not be comprimised by anyone on pacs team.the numbers speak for themselves regardless.when oscar lost 5 times before fighting floyd,floyd still managed to generate more money fighting him so the excuses of floyd beat oscar before pac is not legit for me.

**ThePunchingBag** · 06-20-2010, 04:20 AM

P4P#1 and 2 boxers should get 50/50 out of respect.

Giving a guy, who is at his peak and at the top of his game, who holds 7 titles in 7 different weight divisions, who just won fighter of the decade, who actually brings excitement to the fight anything less is disrespectful.

Floyd v Manny should not be 50/50