Simple poll on Wlad's & George Foreman's punching power...

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  • WladIsTheChamp
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    #11
    I voted yes because I believe that you meant "Does Wlad punch harder than Foreman" and not actually "twice as hard". Otherwise, no, Wlad does not punch twice as hard but he is stronger and punches harder than George Foreman. The difference is not twice as much though, maybe around 10% to 15%.

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    • Xyei
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      #12
      Twice as hard.? Seriously? I have no problem with someone arguing that Wlad punches harder than George but twice as hard? That's just ridiculous.

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      • Killa Killa
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        #13
        The question is would Wlad dismantle Joe Fraizer??

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          #14
          I don't know about that. Sam Peter and Sultan Ibragimov ate a lot of Wlad's shots and were still standing after 12 rounds. I'm not sure they'd be so lucky against a prime Foreman.

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            #15
            wlad would go on ***** street when they touch gloves.

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            • WladIsTheChamp
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              #16
              Originally posted by valero
              I don't know about that. Sam Peter and Sultan Ibragimov ate a lot of Wlad's shots and were still standing after 12 rounds. I'm not sure they'd be so lucky against a prime Foreman.
              Like those two have soft chins or something, they were both world champs. They were also undefeated when Wlad fought them. Foreman wasn't able to put down Jimmy Young, a guy lighter than him, and actually got knocked down by him. Jimmy Young had a 20% KO ratio, if that's not feather fisted, I don't know what is. So he had no power to keep Foreman honest and Foreman still couldn't put him down. Sultan and Peter both have higher than average power for a HW.

              Wlad KO% 86

              Foreman KO% 83

              End of discussion as to who has/had more power.

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                #17
                Originally posted by WladIsTheChamp
                Like those two have soft chins or something, they were both world champs. They were also undefeated when Wlad fought them. Foreman wasn't able to put down Jimmy Young, a guy lighter than him, and actually got knocked down by him. Jimmy Young had a 20% KO ratio, if that's not feather fisted, I don't know what is. So he had no power to keep Foreman honest and Foreman still couldn't put him down. Sultan and Peter both have higher than average power for a HW.

                Wlad KO% 86

                Foreman KO% 83

                End of discussion as to who has/had more power.
                Your including a 40+ year old Foreman. His KO% before his '77 retirement was around 92%. Only 3 of 39 wins went the distance.

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                • V.WEBB
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                  wlad would go on ***** street when they touch gloves.
                  /thread

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                  • WladIsTheChamp
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by madsweeney
                    Your including a 40+ year old Foreman. His KO% before his '77 retirement was around 92%. Only 3 of 39 wins went the distance.
                    Your whole career must be taken into consideration, otherwise if we do that, then we should exclude then 10 or so guys Foreman fought who were below 200 pounds, some as light as 189. Wlad never fought a guy below 200. So if you are going to pick and choose which fights and what period of a fighter you are going to count, you should exclude his opponents who were not true HW so that we can get an apples-to-apples comparison. You have to remember that in general, it takes more power to knock out a true HW (200+ man) than a smaller man.

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                    • madsweeney
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by WladIsTheChamp
                      Your whole career must be taken into consideration, otherwise if we do that, then we should exclude then 10 or so guys Foreman fought who were below 200 pounds, some as light as 189. Wlad never fought a guy below 200. So if you are going to pick and choose which fights and what period of a fighter you are going to count, you should exclude his opponents who were not true HW so that we can get an apples-to-apples comparison. You have to remember that in general, it takes more power to knock out a true HW (200+ man) than a smaller man.
                      Ok I'll look at whole careers. Foreman's resume includes fighting through the 70's and late 80's-90's two extremely stacked eras in HW boxing (70's probably the toughest of all time). Wlad, fighting in probably the weakest ever era not to mention he has some 25 or so less fights than Big George.

                      Guess that extra 3% KO rate is teh proof.

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