50/50 split is the way to go for PAC and MAY

[Spoon23]

Look, these "I have to dig at Floyd", and "is he your boyfriend" comments show you to be a level above a ******.

I always respond to the topic at hand. You can't even acknowledge that Floyd deserves more money. I was surprised Floyd accepted the 50/50 deal the first time, but when the fans spoke of wanting to see the fight...a super fight of this magnitude had to be made. I understood that...

Now that Floyd has out sold Pac gain, you expect any rational fan to say PAc deserves 50-50 now? You are embarrassing yourself.

Bro, grow up and learn to be rational, coz your not making any sense really.

[megadeth]

Why is it that everyone talking about 50-50 gives excuse after excuse, that has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING do with how normal contracts are negotiated?

Some of the reasoning is absolutely ludicrous.

1. Pac is a foreigner and he cant be expected to do as well as FMJ:
This is silly. Where u were born is just how things are. He comes to the US for the big time fights. Him not being born here, has NO bearing on the bottom line. Floyd bring in more revenue...PERIOD!

2.Pac is fighter of the decade, Fighter of the Year: And? NO BEARING!

3.Pac is more exciting:Still no bearing.

4.Pac fights didn't do as well, cuz his promotions aren't as large:Should FMJ be punished because Pac stayed with Arum(Top Rank)?

Any "reason" u can come up with, still does not change the bottom line. FMJ is the bigger draw. It would be like saying "Walmart uses immoral practices in route to becoming the biggest retailer". That might well be true, but when it comes to wanting to get into a certain area, they are gonna have the upper hand over a Target, because bottom line, THEY BRING IN MORE REVENUE!

[Frank Ducketts]

Why is it that everyone talking about 50-50 gives excuse after excuse, that has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING do with how normal contracts are negotiated.

Some of the reasoning is absolutely ludicrous.

1. Pac is a foreigner and he cant be expected to do as well as FMJ.
This is silly. Where u were born is just things are. He comes to the US for the big time fights. Him not being born here, has NO bearing on the bottom line. Floyd bring in more revenue...PERIOD!

2.Pac is fighter of the decade, Fighter of the Year. And? NO BEARING!

3.Pac is more exciting :Still no bearing.

4.Pac fights didn't do as well, cuz his promotions aren't as large:Should FMJ be punished because Pac stayed with Arum(Top Rank)?

Any "reason" u can come up with, still does not change the bottom line. FMJ is the bigger draw. It would be like saying "Walmart uses immoral practices in route to becoming the biggest retailer". That might well be true, but when it comes to wanting to get into a certain area, they are gonna have the upper hand over a Target, because bottom line, THEY BRING IN MORE REVENUE!

Well said...............

[Spoon23]

Why is it that everyone talking about 50-50 gives excuse after excuse, that has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING do with how normal contracts are negotiated.

Some of the reasoning is absolutely ludicrous.

1. Pac is a foreigner and he cant be expected to do as well as FMJ.
This is silly. Where u were born is just things are. He comes to the US for the big time fights. Him not being born here, has NO bearing on the bottom line. Floyd bring in more revenue...PERIOD!

2.Pac is fighter of the decade, Fighter of the Year. And? NO BEARING!

3.Pac is more exciting :Still no bearing.

4.Pac fights didn't do as well, cuz his promotions aren't as large:Should FMJ be punished because Pac stayed with Arum(Top Rank)?

Any "reason" u can come up with, still does not change the bottom line. FMJ is the bigger draw. It would be like saying "Walmart uses immoral practices in route to becoming the biggest retailer". That might well be true, but when it comes to wanting to get into a certain area, they are gonna have the upper hand over a Target, because bottom line, THEY BRING IN MORE REVENUE!

I guess you brain is a size of a walnut lol.. I'm sure you never closed a deal in your life haha! Negotiations is all about what you have to bring in the table. Fighter of the decade doesn't mean ****??

Being an entertainer is what boxing is about. Entertaining fans and you say being exciting isn't important?

Pac is a foreigner and it doesn't matter? He can't even speak good english so he lacks the communications skills to reach his american fan base, but even with that handicap he still is popular in america. Offcourse it does matter, we all know there is always a plus when your countrymen likes you. America is a big country. And if they have an american fighter they will support there kind.

Same as how Pac is in his country he shuts down the whole country when he is fighting.

Same as Ghatti, same as Felix trinidad in Puerto Rico Ali in america etc.. You can't say nationalism isn't a factor. It is if you have a brain that is

[Spoon23]

Well said...............

Another moron ***** hear lol

Any "reason" u can come up with, still does not change the bottom line. FMJ is the bigger draw. It would be like saying "Walmart uses immoral practices in route to becoming the biggest retailer". That might well be true, but when it comes to wanting to get into a certain area, they are gonna have the upper hand over a Target, because bottom line, THEY BRING IN MORE REVENUE![/QUOTE]

I guess you brain is a size of a walnut lol.. I'm sure you never closed a deal in your life haha! Negotiations is all about what you have to bring in the table. Fighter of the decade doesn't mean ****??

Being an entertainer is what boxing is about. Entertaining fans and you say being exciting isn't important?

Pac is a foreigner and it doesn't matter? He can't even speak good english so he lacks the communications skills to reach his american fan base, but even with that handicap he still is popular in america. Offcourse it does matter, we all know there is always a plus when your countrymen likes you. America is a big country. And if they have an american fighter they will support there kind.

Same as how Pac is in his country he shuts down the whole country when he is fighting.

Same as Ghatti, same as Felix trinidad in Puerto Rico Ali in america etc.. You can't say nationalism isn't a factor. It is if you have a brain that is

[ADP02]

floyd deserves more cause he sells more its that simple. so what if he spends 10 times more just to sell a tad bit more. economics schmeconomics! floyd sells more he wins! expecting 4 million but doing 1.4 million= success!

Expecting 4 million but getting 1.4 million is success?

I wish that would be the case in real life......

Example: If GM was expecting (forecasting) sales of 4 million but they only sold 1.4 million cars their stocks would go down NOT up!

[Spoon23]

Expecting 4 million but getting 1.4 million is success?

I wish that would be the case in real life......

Example: If GM was expecting (forecasting) sales of 4 million but they only sold 1.4 million cars their stocks would go down NOT up!

That is a perfect example spot on my man

[ADP02]

That is a perfect example spot on my man

Thanks spoon!

[jltsmae]

if true, this is not about money. this is about mind game. as if floyd is trying to say that he is better than pac. you people really think that pac will turn down the 40M (40% if the fight will generates 100M) if not of Floyd's mind game.

[megadeth]

I guess you brain is a size of a walnut lol.. I'm sure you never closed a deal in your life haha! Negotiations is all about what you have to bring in the table. Fighter of the decade doesn't mean ****??

Being an entertainer is what boxing is about. Entertaining fans and you say being exciting isn't important?

Pac is a foreigner and it doesn't matter? He can't even speak good english so he lacks the communications skills to reach his american fan base, but even with that handicap he still is popular in america. Of course it does matter, we all know there is always a plus when your countrymen likes you. America is a big country. And if they have an American fighter they will support there kind.

Same as how Pac is in his country he shuts down the whole country when he is fighting.

Same as Ghatti, same as Felix trinidad in Puerto Rico Ali in america etc.. You can't say nationalism isn't a factor. It is if you have a brain that is

Fighter of the decade means ****...when its compared to dollars and u know it. Tell me, how many more people are gonna tune in, because Pac was named "fighter of the decade"? If u can't count that high, I will tell u the answer...ZERO! So, explain how that is "bringing something to the table.

Floyd is 2x the entertaining as Pac is. Pac is ONLY entertaining inside the ring. Most people that enjoy the artistry and skill of boxing (and not just KO's and brawling) love FMJ and find him entertaining inside the ring. Many people enjoy his boxing(not brawling) and even if they don't like him, the haters tune in to see him get beat. Not only that, but he has charisma and the gift of gab, unlike Pac, whether he's speaking English, Tagalog or Visaya. Floyd is entertaining to some and boring to others in the ring. But he is entertaining to almost all outside the ring. Pac is interesting to most in the ring, but entertaining to almost no one outside the ring.

Might want to rescind that "walnut" comment. You are not even addressing the matter at hand, and yet you are thinking you've bested me. I never said that someone not speaking english, won't affect their drawing power in the US. My point was...WHO CARES! Its not FMJ fault that Pac wasn't born here. Do u think, that Floyd went to Oscar and said "since i was born black and not Mexican American, and Mexicans support Mexicans more than they do blacks, that shouldn't be used against me. I should get paid just as if I am Mexican American and a bigger draw than I am". Just imagine how far negotiations would've gotten, if he was using your logic(or lack there of).

Shutting down his own country does nothing for his PPV buys or the gate in the USA, so who cares. In the Phils, they are so desperate for almost ANYTHING positive, that, of course, they are gonna grasp onto Pac the way they do. For most, they only know poverty and hardship, so, someone like Pac, that can give them pride and make them feel good, they are gonna grab and hold onto. Been there and my wife is from there.

I do have a brain thanks. If u have one, maybe you can learn to read and address that matters that are actually in my post.