They should impose heavier penalties for cement-fists like Marg and Tito

[dannnnn]

I'm not biased towards anything on this subject, but I came across this which I found an interesting read. It's from East Side boxing's interview with Bouie Fisher. Apologies if it's been posted before, I haven't read up much on this topic.

Interviewer:"I talked to William Joppy before his last fight and he brought up an issue that Trinidad's people wrapped Tito's hand illegally and that is why he lost. He said that your people caught Trinidad illegally wrapping his hands. Can you tell us what happened?

Bouie Fisher: I tell you, Ike. They have been getting away with that for a long time. I sent my people to Trinidad's locker room to make sure everything was right. When they got there they came back to me and told me that Trinidad's left hand was wrapped before they got there. So, I had to go over to his dressing room myself, this is my business and I have been doing it for over 50 years. When I got there I told them to unwrap the hand and do it over because we need to see the hand being wrapped. They refused to unwrap the hands so I told them I guess the fight will not happen then, we can reschedule to another date. The officials came in and said we don't have time to do this over. I told them, well we must do this right or no fight. They know the rules, no tape on the skin or tape on the ankle. His left hand was heavy just like your camera. Guess what, the officials then said you can go and wrap Bernard hands anyway you want. Trinidad's father and his people didn't want to make the change because they knew they cheated and they tried to cover it up by asking me to wrap Bernard's hands anyway we wish. I wasn't going for that, we have to do this right, they raised hell like you couldn't believe. I said you can do it your way, but there will be no fight if you don't do it right. They said we are going to leave it as it is, so I told them we can reschedule the fight untill next week. They didn't want to do that. This is why we had a delay coming out. When they saw Bernard they tried to ask us to take off just a little tape, but they had a half roll of tape on Trinidad's left hand. This is why people say he has a good left hook. David Reid paid a big price, Trinidad took away the fighter in him. David Reids people were trying to schedule a fight with Bernard and it could have happened if Reid would have won his last fight. I'm glad it never happened."

[AntonTheMeh]

yeah, william joppy is going to say anything else. he got his ass whooped by a former welterweight.

[Mr. Mandingo]

I told them, well we must do this right or no fight. They know the rules, no tape on the skin or tape on the ankle. His left hand was heavy just like your camera. Guess what, the officials then said you can go and wrap Bernard hands anyway you want.

Now, things like this should not happen again ever, tsk...

This is why people say he has a good left hook. David Reid paid a big price, Trinidad took away the fighter in him. David Reids people were trying to schedule a fight with Bernard and it could have happened if Reid would have won his last fight. I'm glad it never happened."

Man, this was really tragic and Reid was indeed a victim. Much like Billy Collins Jr was.

[dannnnn]

Also from another article.

As I said earlier, Kim broke the story of the hand wraps and brought up the stories of Fernando Vargas and William Joppy, both of whom which were dropped by monster Trinidad left hooks. Fernando Vargas, who lost to Trinidad in December 2000 in which he was dropped a total of 5 times, mentioned that while in Puerto Rico promoting the fight with Trinidad, a man affiliated with boxing went up to him and told him to check Trinidad’s wraps. William Joppy, Trinidad’s next opponent after Vargas, who was dropped 3 times before the fight was halted after 5 rounds, was also warned of Trinidad’s hand wraps by former Heavyweight Champion, Hasim Rahman. Although neither fighter at the time paid much attention to the hand wraps, both did mention that Trinidad’s shots had an “unnatural” feel once the story broke. Joppy believed Trinidad’s hand wraps were equivalent to getting into a street fight with brass knuckles, while Vargas said, “When I got hit, I was like Mike Tyson just hit me. I knew he was strong, but this was ridiculous. I couldn’t believe what he was hitting me with.”

[Mr. Mandingo]

Also from another article.

As I said earlier, Kim broke the story of the hand wraps and brought up the stories of Fernando Vargas and William Joppy, both of whom which were dropped by monster Trinidad left hooks. Fernando Vargas, who lost to Trinidad in December 2000 in which he was dropped a total of 5 times, mentioned that while in Puerto Rico promoting the fight with Trinidad, a man affiliated with boxing went up to him and told him to check Trinidad’s wraps. William Joppy, Trinidad’s next opponent after Vargas, who was dropped 3 times before the fight was halted after 5 rounds, was also warned of Trinidad’s hand wraps by former Heavyweight Champion, Hasim Rahman. Although neither fighter at the time paid much attention to the hand wraps, both did mention that Trinidad’s shots had an “unnatural” feel once the story broke. Joppy believed Trinidad’s hand wraps were equivalent to getting into a street fight with brass knuckles, while Vargas said, “When I got hit, I was like Mike Tyson just hit me. I knew he was strong, but this was ridiculous. I couldn’t believe what he was hitting me with.”

My sincerest apologies to jrosales for this. It wasnt cement fists.... But rather Brass knuckles..

[Puya]

This god given power was of no effect against bhop, I wonder why

B-hop superior boxing skills did not let Trinidad land nothing solid plus the fact that B-Hop has never been hurt no even by prime RJJ.


Don't be such a hater man makes you look ****** and you are not like that

[Puya]

Also from another article.

As I said earlier, Kim broke the story of the hand wraps and brought up the stories of Fernando Vargas and William Joppy, both of whom which were dropped by monster Trinidad left hooks. Fernando Vargas, who lost to Trinidad in December 2000 in which he was dropped a total of 5 times, mentioned that while in Puerto Rico promoting the fight with Trinidad, a man affiliated with boxing went up to him and told him to check Trinidad’s wraps. William Joppy, Trinidad’s next opponent after Vargas, who was dropped 3 times before the fight was halted after 5 rounds, was also warned of Trinidad’s hand wraps by former Heavyweight Champion, Hasim Rahman. Although neither fighter at the time paid much attention to the hand wraps, both did mention that Trinidad’s shots had an “unnatural” feel once the story broke. Joppy believed Trinidad’s hand wraps were equivalent to getting into a street fight with brass knuckles, while Vargas said, “When I got hit, I was like Mike Tyson just hit me. I knew he was strong, but this was ridiculous. I couldn’t believe what he was hitting me with.”

Bunch of cry babies looking for an excuse of their loss to Tito

[Mr. Mandingo]

Bunch of cry babies looking for an excuse of their loss to Tito

Wasnt an excuse. Is really sad that fans are defending the likes of Resto, tito, and margarito.....

[KILLA RIGHT]

..Because they are the ones who are really giving boxing a bad rep.

more sad is that others even consider Cheato Trinidad as among the top20 atg... tsk!

Ur a ***en idiot. Why do ppl put Tito n cheeto together?seems u don't watch boxing but jus go off what ppl say on here

[Mr. Mandingo]

Ur a ***en idiot. Why do ppl put Tito n cheeto together?seems u don't watch boxing but jus go off what ppl say on here

Ask Sr......