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  • Originally posted by switchsouthpaw View Post
    Better question, taking PPV numbers out of it, WHO DO YOU THINK HAS MORE "MAINSTREAM" POPULARITY BETWEEN MAYWEATHER AND PAC? AND WHY?<---KEYWORD HERE IS "MAINSTREAM".
    Not when it comes to a conversation regarding the money split.

    Absolutely correct when it comes to answering a question asking why Manny appeared on the cover of TIME magazine, but his mainstream appeal has no bearing on PPV numbers, which will be a much bigger factor during negotiations than Manny's mainstream appeal.

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    • Originally posted by switchsouthpaw View Post
      I'm not debating those points as they are correct, and they were also correct when they first negotiated terms in regards to the 50-50 split back in 2009, so following that train of thought, why the sudden shift away from the 50-50 split now?

      Everything you stated remains true, yet Floyd initially accepted the 50-50 split...WHY? Not everything is as black and white as it seems, Pac's popularity can be measured in many ways that just PPV numbers, there is a value that he brings to an event if matched correctly, had he faced Mosley I'm sure the numbers would have been comparable.
      manny used his ppv numbers against cotto to get a 50/50 split but now that floyd fought shane and out sold mannys ppv against cotto now floyd wants more than 50/50

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      • Originally posted by letsgobrady View Post
        did floyd have a belt when he fought shane?no
        did shane have a belt ? yes
        who was the challenger in the mosley-floyd fight?
        My point exactly.

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        • Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
          Pound-for-pound king and “Fighter of the Decade” Manny Pacquiao has reportedly rejected a demand by the handlers of undefeated Floyd Mayweather Jr for a bigger revenue split in their planned megabuck fight sometime in November. [Click Here To Read More]
          50-50 venue split.....60-40 for Jr. in the PPV split and its a wrap!!

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          • Originally posted by switchsouthpaw View Post
            I'm not debating those points as they are correct, and they were also correct when they first negotiated terms in regards to the 50-50 split back in 2009, so following that train of thought, why the sudden shift away from the 50-50 split now?

            Everything you stated remains true, yet Floyd initially accepted the 50-50 split...WHY? Not everything is as black and white as it seems, Pac's popularity can be measured in many ways that just PPV numbers, there is a value that he brings to an event if matched correctly, had he faced Mosley I'm sure the numbers would have been comparable.

            Why is he demanding more now?

            Because his numbers were better the Pac's. Look, whatever split they agree on Im fine with anyways.

            YOU tried to excuse away Floyd's numbers as though they were all a product of happenstance. That was a dishonest way of looking at it.

            I also think that Pac's numbers against Mosley would have been comparable.

            Here is the reality though. Floyd continuously posts better PPV numbers then Manny, without getting into all hypotheticals, thats just a fact. Because of this he is looking to get the most money possible out of this fight.

            Remember, this is NO different then when Manny said to Hatton, 52/48 or no fight.

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            • Originally posted by letsgobrady View Post
              go look at all the boxingscene threads in the beginning of march and the end of february most threads are about shane vs floyd and wasn't the tickets sold at a discount price?
              I spend $300 for my ticket and I don't have to look at any threads what you saying is that nobody here or MOST didn't know about the fight.

              So 50k people spend average of $100 dollars on a ticket that they didn't know what it was about? Paid for hotel, gas, plane, food, drinks for something that they didn't know was happening? 700k homes spend PPV money to something they didn't even know was happening? People wasted a Saturday night streaming a fight that they didn't know was on? hahahahahahahaha

              And, that is only here in the U.S

              Originally posted by yesir View Post
              jro, you know what hes saying. hes saying that it wasnt a fight that people cared for. so the numbers were really low meaning lack of interest.

              and yes, 700k is bad coming from 1.25. and 50k seats filled is easy to do when tickets avg around $100

              so 700k and 50k seats isnt impressive
              First of all yesir with all due respect and I mean with all due respect you have proven to me time after time after time after time and after time that you're just simply................................ an idiot....

              So I will respond to you this one time and one time only OK?

              If spend their hard earned money for something they didn't care for? That makes no sense. People didn't care about Hopkins-Jones how did that do? Look at the numbers and look at the difference. So if you have any damn common sense stop about the people didn't care bull****. If people didn't care it would have done Jones-Hopkins or Latin Fury or Pinoy Power numbers.

              And, no 700k is not bad after doing 1.25mil. Especially when you look at the opponents. Really don't be a biased idiot. Oscar has done worse coming from 1.4. Granted Floyd hasn't but he hasn't fought a no name yet.

              No matter how cheap the tickets were 50k showing up is damn impressive. Especially when is in Dallas. Is not like it was in New York or Las Vegas or even L.A where you got **** to do. It is fucking Dallas, what is there to do in Dallas? 50K showing up is damn impressive especially with a garbage ass undercard and a no name opponent.

              Now you can go on with your biased trolling.
              Last edited by jrosales13; 06-18-2010, 07:01 PM.

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              • Originally posted by 17scenes View Post
                Why is he demanding more now?

                Because his numbers were better the Pac's. Look, whatever split they agree on Im fine with anyways.

                YOU tried to excuse away Floyd's numbers as though they were all a product of happenstance. That was a dishonest way of looking at it.

                I also think that Pac's numbers against Mosley would have been comparable.

                Here is the reality though. Floyd continuously posts better PPV numbers then Manny, without getting into all hypotheticals, thats just a fact. Because of this he is looking to get the most money possible out of this fight.

                Remember, this is NO different then when Manny said to Hatton, 52/48 or no fight.
                His numbers were better when they originally agreed upon the 50-50 split, so nothing has changed in that department.

                I'm not attempting to dismiss Floyd's ability to pull in numbers as simply a matter of happenstance, but there are reasons as to why those numbers were as big as they were, without rehashing those points all over again. I think the value that Pac brings as an opponent of Floyd's isn't is in the same vicinity as being comparable to anything else anyone else would bring to the table, if the 50-50 split was good in 2009 it should remain that way in 2010...nothing has changed. Floyd had the bigger numbers then and he has them now...

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                • seems like Floyd is trying to wiggle his way out of the fight...again. say it isn't so Floyd. boxing fans wants to see this fight.

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                  • If it is true that Floyd is demanding more on the money split, then he is really a *****. They should make it 60-40 or 55-45 for the winner if they can't agree on 50-50. I think this is not about money but more on pride matters. If Pac will agree on Floyd getting more, then it would be an admission that overall (not just PPV) Floyd is greater/ better than Floyd which is already a disadvantage on his part mentally.

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                    • Who did they hear this from then? Because there is meant to be a gagging order. Lets wait and see, negoatiations are negotiations... people go in demanding more than they will get just so they can get the most possible.

                      Im just saying that I am not listening to any of this insider information, whether about Manny or Floyd on the negoatiations... they are better when silent, lets keep it that way and not jump to conclusions from what people hear.

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