Zahir Raheem (the guy that beat Morales)... was actually a really good fighter!!

[killacash]

Pac fans kill me with the "Prime" Barrera win. He was clearly not in his prime. Once again, He was KNOCKEDOUT by Junior Jones after that he lost a rematch with Jones. Then he lost a match with Morales. Now it would be more acceptable if you guys said that pacman beat Barrera while he was on a winning streak but for the last time Marco was NOT in his prime.

[Jack Napier]

Raheem has skills
but he is boring
he was very inactive and inconsistent
he got robbed against Juarez by referee, would have been big win
got shaded by Freitas
got murked by Funeka
he's ok, but nothing special

[daggum]

Pac fans kill me with the "Prime" Barrera win. He was clearly not in his prime. Once again, He was KNOCKEDOUT by Junior Jones after that he lost a rematch with Jones. Then he lost a match with Morales. Now it would be more acceptable if you guys said that pacman beat Barrera while he was on a winning streak but for the last time Marco was NOT in his prime.

so prime barrera lost to junior jones but he wasn't in his prime when he beat morales and hamed? i guess wlad isn't in his prime right now but he was was when he kept getting knocked out?

[JK1700]

Pacquiao should have fought Raheem after the Morales rematch. I can understand having a rematch with the guy who beat you but I dont know why you would have a 3rd fight instead of fighting the guy who won a shutout against the guy who beat you.

[MurderDeathKill]

If he was really good, he woulda gotten a big break eventually. Winky did. Marquez did. Other guys have. Raheem was just an average fighter. Maybe good enough to get a title belt, but not good enough to be counted amongst the elite in boxing.

[Mr. Ryan]

no, i think some of the ppl on the list are a level. sergio martinez is a level, donaire isnt. get wat i mean?

and to the guy who said i base it off fantasy fights, thats not what im gettin at. i was just saying pac looked like he was good at the division he was in, so u cld say he was an a level fighter at 130, but i didnt think his skills transcended that division. i was wrong and i admit tht, but thats what i thought. i thought he was a truly limited fighter. now i think the only people he could hope to lose to at any divison betw. 135 to 154 are limited to about 3 or 4 fighters. there was no way in hell i thought that was true after the morales fight. i just call it like i see it.

Would you say that Donaire is the number one fighter in the 112-118 divisions?

Donaire has been the most dominant fighter in those divisions over the last few years, so how does that make "B level?" So in your logic, a fighter who is of lesser caliber can be an A level fighter over Donaire? Because someone has to be A level in that weight range, no?

[shadeyfizzle]

Would you say that Donaire is the number one fighter in the 112-118 divisions?

Donaire has been the most dominant fighter in those divisions over the last few years, so how does that make "B level?" So in your logic, a fighter who is of lesser caliber can be an A level fighter over Donaire? Because someone has to be A level in that weight range, no?

not to mention that Donaire is far more technically sound than Sergio Martinez who may have a better resume but is of limited skill. He's only been able to achieve success through superior conditioning and superior athleticsm

[shadeyfizzle]

Pac fans kill me with the "Prime" Barrera win. He was clearly not in his prime. Once again, He was KNOCKEDOUT by Junior Jones after that he lost a rematch with Jones. Then he lost a match with Morales. Now it would be more acceptable if you guys said that pacman beat Barrera while he was on a winning streak but for the last time Marco was NOT in his prime.

according to this logic Barrera simply wasnt very good in his prime therefore is no big deal in boxing's bigger scheme of things.

[Kagami Taiga]

not to mention that Donaire is far more technically sound than Sergio Martinez who may have a better resume but is of limited skill. He's only been able to achieve success through superior conditioning and superior athleticsm

who has donaire fought???darchiniyan??im sorry i dnt give the guy credit for beating guys he shld beat. u wanna be in on the donaire hype, good 4 u but u guys wanna give khan **** for fighting ppl we kno he can beat, do the same for donaire...he doesnt fight any dangerous ppl and he kills himself just to stay in a lower weight class where he can be dominant. come back to me when he's proven he's an a class fighter.

and so what he's technically superior to martinez, do u kno how many fighters are technically superior to pac???does that make them a better level of fighter??? dnt think so...

[Mr. Ryan]

not to mention that Donaire is far more technically sound than Sergio Martinez who may have a better resume but is of limited skill. He's only been able to achieve success through superior conditioning and superior athleticsm

You can't really measure the guts of Martinez though, because Donaire hasn't been asked to step up in a big fight the way Martinez has.

I agree though, Donaire is one of the most technically sound fighters in the world.