***Official Ward vs Green Super6 Poll***

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  • B.U.R.N.E.R
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    #71
    Originally posted by Walt Liquor
    what have you done for me lately.


    Look, I'm going to go ahead and say that he is way overrated here on boxingscene. I heard top 5 pfp on here, top 10 pfp and top 15 from different posters. All are preposterous (especially the first two). Since you and burner think top 15 is accurate but refuse to back up your claims. I'll go ahead and just name 15 I would rank pfp higher than ward real quick. I have no formal list that I keep...

    V klit, w klit, d haye, t adamek, c Dawson, a dirrell, l bute, s Martinez, p will, fmj, PAC man, cotto, T Bradley, d Alexander, jmm, caballero, calderon, darchiniyan, montiel, rafa.... And so on and so forth. You may want to argue a few so I threw a few extras in.

    I said top 25 and that may he pushing it.
    Naw.....

    Haye, Viatli, Alexander, and Cab over Ward ,I disagree with. First off Haye and Vit are heavies. Haye hasnt beaten anybody and Vitali looked shot in his last fight. Alexander and Cab dont have the type of win that Ward has over Kessler.

    Top 15

    1. Mayweather
    2. Pacquiao
    3. Williams
    4. Dawson
    5. Martinez
    6. The Pong
    7. Montiel
    8. Marquez
    9. Cotto
    10. Mosley
    11. Ward
    12. Cab
    13. Bute
    14. Bradley
    15. Lopez

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    • Walt Liquor
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      #72
      Originally posted by DWiens421
      No love for Pongsaklek? He certainly is better than Darchinyan who has posted one really good victory and has taken two losses.
      Him too. I named about 20 boxers and said ward probably is barely top 25. Hell, Chris John should be higher pfp than Andre ward. Maybe giovanni segura too (segura-calderon anyone?). Poonsawat?

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      • geribeetus
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        #73
        kessler was ranked 19th when ward beat him. the way he won makes him top 15 for me. i still won't have him top 10 yet if he beats green tonight though. if and when he wins the tourny i'd probably have him in the top 5, at least top 10.

        for the record i think he beats dirrell. he's fast enough to cope with dirrell's speed, and has the skills and tenacity to keep dirrell where he wants him.

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        • BattlingNelson
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          #74
          Originally posted by Walt Liquor
          what have you done for me lately.


          Look, I'm going to go ahead and say that he is way overrated here on boxingscene. I heard top 5 pfp on here, top 10 pfp and top 15 from different posters. All are preposterous (especially the first two). Since you and burner think top 15 is accurate but refuse to back up your claims. I'll go ahead and just name 15 I would rank pfp higher than ward real quick. I have no formal list that I keep...

          V klit, w klit, d haye, t adamek, c Dawson, a dirrell, l bute, s Martinez, p will, fmj, PAC man, cotto, T Bradley, d Alexander, jmm, caballero, calderon, darchiniyan, montiel, rafa.... And so on and so forth. You may want to argue a few so I threw a few extras in.

          I said top 25 and that may he pushing it.
          Boxingscene doesn't rate HW's as p4p'ers. Bute is not over Ward or if he is its only by a fraction.

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          • Walt Liquor
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            #75
            Originally posted by No Ceilings
            Naw.....

            Haye, Viatli, Alexander, and Cab over Ward ,I disagree with. First off Haye and Vit are heavies. Haye hasnt beaten anybody and Vitali looked shot in his last fight. Alexander and Cab dont have the type of win that Ward has over Kessler.

            Top 15

            1. Mayweather
            2. Pacquiao
            3. Williams
            4. Dawson
            5. Martinez
            6. The Pong
            7. Montiel
            8. Marquez
            9. Cotto
            10. Mosley
            11. Ward
            12. Cab
            13. Bute
            14. Bradley
            15. Lopez
            haye was undisputed cw champion and has proved worthy in other weight classes. Cab's body of work in different weight classes and dominations over a different champions dwarfs the one good win over kessler. V klit has many better wins than the kessler win and hasn't lost more than one round in his last 4 fights easy. Ward isn't even close. He has one good win and one decent win.

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            • Walt Liquor
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              #76
              Originally posted by BattlingNelson
              Boxingscene doesn't rate HW's as p4p'ers. Bute is not over Ward or if he is its only by a fraction.

              I don't give a damn about boxingscene's pfp. I've never even seen it. I was talking about posters on boxingscene. Not ranking heavies makes 0 sense especially heavies that came up from lower weight classes (proving their pfp worthiness).

              Well I'm quite sure you don't like bute the way he one punched andrade.

              Plus bute looked far better v Miranda.

              I'm not a pfp type guy, we can argue this all day. One thing that we know for sure is that are well over 20 more accomplished boxers out there than ward. That is a 100% fact. I see right through you and burners pfp lists and comments- how you treat your favorites or boxers associated with them.

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              • Walt Liquor
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                #77
                More evidence of ward being overrated.

                See check's thread about wards career setting up to be atg that he just started. Lol!

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                • Ganondorf
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                  #78
                  Green doesn't match up well defensively. Miranda is basically a one-handed puncher and he was landing his right hand from the opening bell on Green. No way can Green deal with Andre Ward's arsenal.

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                  • Johnni G
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                    #79
                    Ward. By an inch

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                    • V.WEBB
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                      #80
                      OP was right on point. Just wish he could have stopped Green.

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