Did Hopkins deserve fighter of the decade?

[Toney616]

Tarver may have not been focused but he was much more than a B fighter at the time.

My definition of a Class A fighter would be prime Toney, Jones, Calzaghe, Mayweather etc.
I can't put Tarver in that class, whats your definition of a Class A fighter?

[ИATAS]

He did drop a **** ton of weight...

What's Your Excuse Tonight Roy?

Karma.

[IMDAZED]

Same can be said about Pacman fighting nobodies till 03(after Hop had a name and fought all timers). As far as the popularity of those fighters, those were like the Corley's and Mitchell's of the upper division, yet everyone get's love for winning over them. Pacman also fought people out of weight class, is fighting a smaller DLH all that much better than fighting a DLH that needed IVs to even enter the ring at 34 or was it 36?

Joppy did get exposed by cheating wraps McTrinidad, but why should he be punished for being hit by casts? Did you want a list of the nobodies Pacman fought? Keep in mind this isn't fighter of the year, this is fighter of the decade and I am going with whatever has been accomplished over a decade span not over 3-4 years of great managed fights.

Why can't you have a real boxing debate? Every time I think you're a mature poster you go say some dumb **** like this. Come on, get serious.

[Mr. Ryan]

Joppy did get exposed by cheating wraps McTrinidad, but why should he be punished for being hit by casts? Did you want a list of the nobodies Pacman fought? Keep in mind this isn't fighter of the year, this is fighter of the decade and I am going with whatever has been accomplished over a decade span not over 3-4 years of great managed fights.

For the sake of arguing with facts as the basis, can you show me the record of suspension or other disciplinary action that the NY Athletic Commission gave Felix Trinidad for fighting with "casts?"

I'm not talking about wrapping the hands in a way that is only legal in certain commissions (because some commissions like Pennsylvania allow you to put tape directly on the hands). You used the word "cast", which implies that he was using the substance Plaster of Paris which Antonio Margarito was caught with.

Can you please explain to me how Trinidad used "casts", because as far as I know, casts consist of something more than tape.

[cortdawg25]

Nah, it's either Pacquiao or Mayweather. I'd choose Pacquiao.

People knock Mayweather's win over Hatton because Hatton was better @ 140, well look at a lot of wins for Hopkins. DLH wasn't much above 154, Trinidad was better below 160, Wright never did anything above 160, Pavlik's most notable fight above 160 was a rematch win over Taylor. Others will knock Pacquiao for certain fighters being past their best or weight drained, but Tarver didn't exactly seem like he was in the best of shape when he fought Hopkins after coming down from being a fat HW in Rocky Balboa. He looked lethargic throughout.

the great marvin hagler did a similar thing. I think the thread starter has got a point. Hopkins had over half of his 20 defenes of his MW title in the decade. He lost twice to Taylor, but then jumped all the way up to LHW and beat the linear champion in Tarver. whooped on Winky, when nobody could really figure him out and beat him convincingly. Then his last greatest feat in destroying a young less drunk pavlik after pavlik destroyed taylor and people felt like Pavlik was gon send Bernard out of here on a stretcher. Bernard has got a case!

[Thread Stealer]

the great marvin hagler did a similar thing. I think the thread starter has got a point. Hopkins had over half of his 20 defenes of his MW title in the decade. He lost twice to Taylor, but then jumped all the way up to LHW and beat the linear champion in Tarver. whooped on Winky, when nobody could really figure him out and beat him convincingly. Then his last greatest feat in destroying a young less drunk pavlik after pavlik destroyed taylor and people felt like Pavlik was gon send Bernard out of here on a stretcher. Bernard has got a case!

Hagler's most notable fights were against the smaller guys moving up, but Hagler beat some quality middleweights on the way to the title and also defended against some good ones too (Hamsho for example).

I personally think prime Hopkins and prime Hagler is close to a pick-em, in fact I actually slightly favor B-Hop, but Hagler fought better MW opposition and as a result of that, I'd probably rate him higher on the all-time MW list.