Did Hopkins deserve fighter of the decade?

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  • IMDAZED
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    #11
    Hopkins had gobs of years where he did squat, particularly after the Tito win. Carl Daniels and Hakkar? I don't think so. Joppy had already been exposed. Robert Allan? And I feel sorry for anyone who thinks the Oscar victory was significant other than popularity-wise and financially. His other wins were against opponents who fought out of their weight class and some have even diminished over time (Pavlik). It's pretty clear why he wasn't in the running for the award. And this is coming from someone who respects Hops a great deal.

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    • THE REED
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      #12
      And what controversial loss at SMW?

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      • ИATAS
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        #13
        Almost, but not quite. He got old and the last couple years hurt him and so did the JT losses even if he should have won.

        Now, if he would have officially won both JT fights and add one more significant win towards the end of the decade in addition to pavlik then yeah, he would have got it.

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        • Thread Stealer
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          #14
          Nah, it's either Pacquiao or Mayweather. I'd choose Pacquiao.

          People knock Mayweather's win over Hatton because Hatton was better @ 140, well look at a lot of wins for Hopkins. DLH wasn't much above 154, Trinidad was better below 160, Wright never did anything above 160, Pavlik's most notable fight above 160 was a rematch win over Taylor. Others will knock Pacquiao for certain fighters being past their best or weight drained, but Tarver didn't exactly seem like he was in the best of shape when he fought Hopkins after coming down from being a fat HW in Rocky Balboa. He looked lethargic throughout.

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          • Toney616
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            #15
            Originally posted by poeticlsykuac
            Just end the thread, I am going to get torched guys, let it die. I just think historically no one has accomplished what B-hop has over the last decade.

            I lost, I secede.
            His only win over a prime fighter, fighting in his dominant weight class is Tarver, who is at best a B class fighter. In order to get wins equivalent to Pacs wins he is going to have to fight at cw, something he never did, or will ever do.

            Fighter of the decade: Pacquiao

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              #16
              Originally posted by -IronMike-
              His only win over a prime fighter, fighting in his dominant weight class is Tarver, who is at best a B class fighter. In order to get wins equivalent to Pacs win he is going to have to fight at cw, something he never did, or will ever do.

              Fighter of the decade: Pacquiao[
              Tarver may have not been focused but he was much more than a B fighter at the time.

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              • BritishBoxing92
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                #17
                ??? pac just got the FOTD award......aside from the JT and Calzaghe loss....hopkins did jump up 2 weight classes and beated tarver then winky wright....

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                • THE REED
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  Tarver may have not been focused but he was much more than a B fighter at the time.
                  He did drop a **** ton of weight...

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                  • Mr. Ryan
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by poeticlsykuac
                    But this is fighter of the decade not flavor of the month. Pacman has been in it for 7 years. B-hop owned the entire decade, is it not fighter of the decade?

                    IS IT NOT FIGHTER OF THE DECADE? I guess fighter of the last 2 years is worth it.

                    end thread.
                    I don't even think Hopkins got a single vote.

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                    • poeticlsykuac
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED
                      Hopkins had gobs of years where he did squat, particularly after the Tito win. Carl Daniels and Hakkar? I don't think so. Joppy had already been exposed. Robert Allan? And I feel sorry for anyone who thinks the Oscar victory was significant other than popularity-wise and financially. His other wins were against opponents who fought out of their weight class and some have even diminished over time (Pavlik). It's pretty clear why he wasn't in the running for the award. And this is coming from someone who respects Hops a great deal.
                      Same can be said about Pacman fighting nobodies till 03(after Hop had a name and fought all timers). As far as the popularity of those fighters, those were like the Corley's and Mitchell's of the upper division, yet everyone get's love for winning over them. Pacman also fought people out of weight class, is fighting a smaller DLH all that much better than fighting a DLH that needed IVs to even enter the ring at 34 or was it 36?

                      Joppy did get exposed by cheating wraps McTrinidad, but why should he be punished for being hit by casts? Did you want a list of the nobodies Pacman fought? Keep in mind this isn't fighter of the year, this is fighter of the decade and I am going with whatever has been accomplished over a decade span not over 3-4 years of great managed fights.

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