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  • cortdawg25
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    #121
    The appointment to declare Pacquiao as "Fighter of the Decade" was made and I respect the decision of the committee that voted, but I can understand the plight of those who feel he didn't deserve it as well. When I think about the last decade in the sport, I can think of a few fighters one could argue deserved it equally as much or greater. Despite the losses to Taylor and Calzaghe, Hopkins did soundly defeat Trinidad, Oscar Dela Hoya, Wright, Tarver, and a few others. Lennox Lewis retired early in the decade, but he was pretty solid. I think Calzaghe and the K-Bros did a very good job over that span, as well. As it relates to Floyd Mayweather jr., I won't get into another senseless debate about who deserves what, but lets look at the accomplishments and remove the names - then you decide which person you would vote for:

    FIGHTER (A) - (Notable fights between '99 and '10)

    KO'd Rd 3 by Singsurat (09/17/99); Draw against Sanchez (11/10/01) - (had Sanchez not lost two points on low blows, this would have been a lost for fighter (A), as well). Sanchez never received a rematch. Fighter (A) fought a couple not-so-popular fighters outside the country over the next two years before facing and defeating Barrera in 11/03. Next, Fighter (A) has a highly questionable Draw against Marquez in 05/04, then suffers a loss (03/15/05) to Morales by unanimous decision. Over the following 2 years, Fighter (A) fought Morales two more times, Barrera again, received a questionable split decision victory in a rematch against Marquez, faced 3 other decent opponents, then in 2008 began his true ascent to new heights by climbing up in weight and defeating lightweight Diaz, jr. middleweight turned welterweight Oscar Dela Hoya, jr. welterweight Hatton, reduced welterweight Cotto, and into the new decade, Clottey.

    FIGHTER (B) - (Notable fights between '99 and '10)

    Coming off of victories over (Angel) Manfredy and Genaro Hernandez, Fighter (B) also defeated Corrales (RIP), Jesus Chavez, Castillo by narrow decision, unanimously in an immediate rematch; followed by Mitchell, Corley, Gatti, Judah, (lineal champ) Carlos Baldomir, jr. middleweight Oscar Dela Hoya (in his natural weight division), Hatton as a welterweight, Marquez as a welterweight, and Mosley.

    Fighter (A) made a great push from 2008 to current, but a few losses and repetitive competition would dampen his position in my book when you consider that Fighter (B) faced very credible opposition, and removed all doubt by solidifying questionable victories. Another key point of contention is that Fighter (B) faced several co-divisional champions; wherein Fighter (A) rarely faced and never once defeated a co-champion from any of his respective weight classes, reaching a Draw with both Sanchez and Marquez, and losing to Morales. These facts present a compelling case, but apparently those that decided never took these things into consideration.


    Vivek Wallace

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    • Toney616
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      #122
      Originally posted by letsgobrady
      so did hamed barerra's biggest win
      Barrera's bigest win is Morales

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      • Toney616
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        #123
        Originally posted by DeltaSigChi4
        Mayweather has never been knocked dead. Or had questionable growth that could very much be related to ILLEGAL performance enhancement drugs.

        E
        There are other threads for those kinds of accusations

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        • Vegan101
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          #124
          Even if Pacquiao didn't fight Cotto, Hatton, Clottey, and Dela Hoya, he still has a better resume than Mayweather.

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          • cortdawg25
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            #125
            did yall know that Manny has fought morales 3 times, mab once, clottey once, and larios once after they had lost in their last fight?

            Did you know that Morales was coming off a loss in every fight he had with pacquiao? And yet, pacquiao still managed to lose a fight!

            And yall really think his resume is on par with floyd's? Imagine if floyd fought this many fighters, this many fights after the opponent took an L in their last bout...yall would crucify him!

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            • Vadrigar.
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              #126
              Originally posted by Vegan101
              Even if Pacquiao didn't fight Cotto, Hatton, Clottey, and Dela Hoya, he still has a better resume than Mayweather.
              no I wouldn't say that. Those were very important wins.

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              • jaskieee
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                #127
                Originally posted by MmuhammadM
                If it is a close fight, there should be a rematch.
                Agreed think about the money to be made.

                Even though im a Floyd fan id like to see him overcome a loss and then come back and beat Manny in a rematch.

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                • andrew14
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by larryx2010
                  ok..lets compare(but you listed mab 2 times second fight shouldnt be listed)
                  1-floyd fought the better hatton
                  2-floyd fought the better oscar
                  3-mab1-good win-best on his resume
                  4-morales 2-shouldnt be there he was coming off of a terrible loss to raheem and was drained at 130
                  5-clottey-coming off of a loss to cotto but ok
                  6-larios-moved up 2 divisions but ok
                  7-sasakul-dont know the guy so i cant comment


                  so how is his resume better than floyds??
                  1. pac destroyed hatton better tha floyd
                  2. pacman destryoed oscar better than SD by floyd aheheh
                  3. MAB1 Floyd will never have this kind of fight
                  4. Morales 1,2 and 3 are the best... even floyd watch it and he was a pacman fan out there whe watch EM vs Pacman(better watch the fight look for floyd jumping to gladness and happiness LOL)
                  5. Clottey.. Floyd wull never fight this guy even margarito.
                  6. Larios is a tune up fight.. all floyd fights are tune ups like baldomir
                  7. sasaukal is a linear champ idiot for you education.. all american dwarf will die with sasakul moron...

                  YOU want more???

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                  • RockyB
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                    #129
                    I think Manny has the greater resume. but as some of you say, it is not lightyears ahead. close but clear.

                    Manny seems to challenge himself a bit more, he goes up in weight.
                    Floyd tends to demand stuff for himself to have the upper hand.

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                    • andrew14
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by larryx2010
                      floyds best wins

                      1-corrales-former champ at 130 p4p top 5
                      2-mosley-wba champ p4p#3
                      3-hatton-linear lww champ,former wba ww champ top 5 p4p
                      4-oscar-wbc lmw champ
                      5-hernendez-#1 at 130 wbc champ
                      6-judah-former linear champ at ww
                      7-gatti-wbc lww champ
                      8-castillo-wbc lw champ
                      9-baldo-linear ww champ
                      10-jmm-linear lw champ-p4p#2

                      can some list mannys top 10 wins please....

                      i think their resumes are pretty even
                      1. corrales is one great fight i agree
                      2. mosley is his grandfather
                      3. hatton is a great fight too
                      4. oscar.. i dont like the fight it ends up SD
                      5. hernandez is good but not good enough..
                      6. judah is a great fight too
                      7. gatti.. gatti is a bum.. he should have fougt Kostya this time.
                      8. castillo is a very controversial fight.. i dont like it
                      9. baldomir????????? you are a moron.. tell that to Tiger Woods who left the building... and he cries.. damn idiot boxer CRYING!
                      10.JMM??? bull****!! a fight in 144 and fighting a 135 pounder..
                      and he fought the little guy at 146??????

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