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  • #81
    Originally posted by BIGBOXINGFAN View Post
    Floyd is not scared of Pacquiao.
    What a load of crap coming out of Ariza's mouth.

    Pac is scared of Floyd that's why he wont come clean and submit to testing. Floyd has succeeded in pulling the cover off Pac's ass by fighting and dominating the 2 fighters Pac wanted absolutely no part of and it just so happen that they were the #2 and #3 P4P best at the time. Floyd is right on this cause why even allow this clown to cheat. Manny is juicing I am 1000% sure.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by BoxeoBoriqua View Post
      Everybody here is slayin Pacquiao but Floyd is 2 blame 2. I mean, he's the 1 demanding the drug testing. Not that im against the random drug testing but the way it came about is what I didn't like. I question wether Mayweather really wants 2 "clean" the sport up. I think it was a way 2 take a shot at him and make it seem like its Manny's fault for 4 this fight not happening. Now Arum has plan b, Cotto. Im Puerto Rock and a big Cotto fan so my reason 4 wanting this rematch will be different compared 2 a non-Boricua or a non-Cotto fan. I want 2 see Miguel get his revenge. A lot of other fans could care less about that and I totally understand where their coming from. You can't blame Arum's disgusting ass for having a plan b cuz now 50-50 isn't enough for Floyd and he doesn't want a cutoff date. Mayweather said he wants 2 take time off aswell, idk if he meant it but he said it. These things are making Arum look elswhere for a fight and where else is he gonna look but at his own company. And every1 talks about the style of Pacquiao not working vs Floyd. I disagree. I know Pacquiao has no jab just like Shane but No1 in the world is going 2 outbox Mayweather so I think it takes a relentless brawler with good enough power, technique and non stop punching 2 beat him. He will get countered heavy by Floyd but I think a fighter has a better chance of beating him with big time pressure compared 2 trying actually trying 2 stand there and box with Mayweather. Any1 is dead meat imo if the try 2 outbox him.
      probably ur best post. acknowledged.
      Last edited by reneg_2; 06-16-2010, 10:59 AM.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by WESS View Post
        People continuously say that Mayweather only fights smaller and/or older fighters. Contrarily to this very popular belief that in fact 2 of his last 4 opponents have been bigger(Mosley, DLH) and although 3 of his last 4 have been older they had destroyed an opponent or just looked good in their previous fight (IMO). Unlike Pac’s previous opponents.

        Pac's last 5 out of 6 opponents have been older and half of them looked like crap (Hoya, Clottey) or was "destroyed" (Cotto, Hatton) in their previous fight... Let’s also not forget that team Pac likes to have the "advantage" (wait isn't this what Mayweather gets bashed for?) and drain there opponents. DLH was a zombie, Cotto was made to drop weight for his very own WW belt and if they would have fought Mosley, they wanted him to be "at least at 142-143" per Freddie Roach explained (yet now they want to fight at 154 for a belt?). Then again Master coach and hall of fame trainer Freddie Roach stated that Mosley was "too good" and he also stated that "Pac wasn’t ready for a fighter like Mayweather". Shocker? Not really. So who’s ducking who? Who didn’t agree to the 14 day cut off then but now all of a sudden does when 14 days is not an option. Who's really afraid of losing?

        So lets talk size. Why would Floyd "duck" a smaller fighter? According to Maywweather's haters, smaller fighters are his specialty. IMO Pacs too small in every aspect to beat Mayweather. He lacks the technical skills just as he did when he fought JMM (twice) and we know exactly how Mayweather can handle a much smaller technical fighter. What makes people think Pac will beat Mayweather so soundly when nobody has really come close. Especially someone of Pacs "little" size. Jose Luis Castillo doesn't count eitgher. He started out around 125 in the early 90's and hit 140's in 2001. He was a natural LW and he fought most of his career at LW. Which is the weight he fought and lost to Mayweather in (twice). If Floyd was afraid of losing he wouldn't have fought him the second time.


        “Floyd Mayweather Jr is a sharpshooter and Manny Pac would eventually get shot down” - Larry Merchant

        “You gonna have to punch with’em instead of keep waiting for a spot. You inside looking for a perfect shot. THERE IS NONE” - Richardson

        "Pac isn't ready for a fighter like Mayweather" - Roach

        Biased Video, but funny

        More in depth info

        "The ball is now in Pac’s court" - Brian Kinney

        The fight will get made and Pac will "give in" just like he flip flopped on the cut off dates. Excuses will not be tolerated from his camp.

        Size will matter, skills will matter. Listen to Master coach and hall of fame trainer Freddie Roach, he knows what he's talking about. He doesn't like the Mayweather fight one bit. Lets remember who trained Hoya when Mayweather beat him. Lets also remember who trained James Toney (twice) when he tested positive for steroids.

        Team Pac has been shook from day one. This is just another day for Mayweather to talk his (money making) trash. Nothing is different. If people want to see Mayweather possibly beat you would be calling for a much bigger fighter in Sergio Martinez or P.WILL! Little Pac is not the man to do it.

        Fantastic post my dude. Great research.

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        • #84
          I'm sure that the world famous conditioning expert has a lead role in these negotiations.

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          • #85
            Floyd Sr: "Pac is a *****!!! He's not in lil Floy'ds level, but I won't let him touch my son with a 10 foot pole."


            Haha.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by sapo#1 View Post
              Manny Pac is going to fight cotto for the 154lbs title but at 150lbs!!!!

              Just like manny pac won the 147lbs title at 145lbs!!!!!

              will someone explain this to me!!!!!!!!!!!


              who has manny pac beat???
              manny padded paquaio!!! he should get the padded award!!!!

              Erik morales lost a trilogy then erik morales lost a "tune up fight" then lost to manny pac!!! Erik was already losing!!!

              Oscar De La Hoya 36yr old part time fighter since 2002 weight drained and lost 3 of his last 6 fights!!!

              Ricky fatton Hatton drunken fighter and was K.O. by mayweather and mayweather is not even a power puncher!!!

              Miguel Cotto looked weak in his last 2 fights!!! and was drained to 144 lbs!! why not fight cotto at his best 147lbs??

              manny pac targets weak fighters or fighters he can drain!!!

              he has not beat a prime fighter manny pac is a protected PADDED fighter!!!

              MANNY PADDED PACQUAIO!!!!

              prove me wrong or stop me when i lie!!!
              well said man, i agree
              and the things is that boxing is so disgusting that they let this take place and find nothing wrong with it
              explain tme how the nevada comission closed the door on the anti doping agency as if it was bad for the sport and yet allow fighters to dictate who they fight and how, like pac challenging bigger fighters and then making them comedown and fight in between divisions. i understand that the fighters who agree are also responsible for agreeing to these stipulations but they're looking for a big payday and a chance to fight for a championship, but this is where i believe boxing should step in and enforce that if a fight is being labeled as a fight at the 154lbs divison then that's where it should take place at, especially if pac fights Cotto who is now a title holder, and the WBA should also enforce that and protect his champion but they might rather pac be the champ so they'll allow all this b.s. to take place

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              • #87
                Alex Ariza should STFU and stick to making protein drinks and egg whites for Manny like the ***** he is.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by nachomas4 View Post
                  well said man, i agree
                  and the things is that boxing is so disgusting that they let this take place and find nothing wrong with it
                  explain tme how the nevada comission closed the door on the anti doping agency as if it was bad for the sport and yet allow fighters to dictate who they fight and how, like pac challenging bigger fighters and then making them comedown and fight in between divisions. i understand that the fighters who agree are also responsible for agreeing to these stipulations but they're looking for a big payday and a chance to fight for a championship, but this is where i believe boxing should step in and enforce that if a fight is being labeled as a fight at the 154lbs divison then that's where it should take place at, especially if pac fights Cotto who is now a title holder, and the WBA should also enforce that and protect his champion but they might rather pac be the champ so they'll allow all this b.s. to take place


                  If I'm a ***** you and my other fellow *****s make me proud to be one. *******s always result to name calling and ignorant opinion based BS while us so-called *****s come with sound facts. You guys are the reason I can't stop coming here. Great post my dude.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by WESS View Post
                    People continuously say that Mayweather only fights smaller and/or older fighters. Contrarily to this very popular belief that in fact 2 of his last 4 opponents have been bigger(Mosley, DLH) and although 3 of his last 4 have been older they had destroyed an opponent or just looked good in their previous fight (IMO). Unlike Pac’s previous opponents.

                    Pac's last 5 out of 6 opponents have been older and half of them looked like crap (Hoya, Clottey) or was "destroyed" (Cotto, Hatton) in their previous fight... Let’s also not forget that team Pac likes to have the "advantage" (wait isn't this what Mayweather gets bashed for?) and drain there opponents. DLH was a zombie, Cotto was made to drop weight for his very own WW belt and if they would have fought Mosley, they wanted him to be "at least at 142-143" per Freddie Roach explained (yet now they want to fight at 154 for a belt?). Then again Master coach and hall of fame trainer Freddie Roach stated that Mosley was "too good" and he also stated that "Pac wasn’t ready for a fighter like Mayweather". Shocker? Not really. So who’s ducking who? Who didn’t agree to the 14 day cut off then but now all of a sudden does when 14 days is not an option. Who's really afraid of losing?

                    So lets talk size. Why would Floyd "duck" a smaller fighter? According to Maywweather's haters, smaller fighters are his specialty. IMO Pacs too small in every aspect to beat Mayweather. He lacks the technical skills just as he did when he fought JMM (twice) and we know exactly how Mayweather can handle a much smaller technical fighter. What makes people think Pac will beat Mayweather so soundly when nobody has really come close. Especially someone of Pacs "little" size. Jose Luis Castillo doesn't count eitgher. He started out around 125 in the early 90's and hit 140's in 2001. He was a natural LW and he fought most of his career at LW. Which is the weight he fought and lost to Mayweather in (twice). If Floyd was afraid of losing he wouldn't have fought him the second time.


                    “Floyd Mayweather Jr is a sharpshooter and Manny Pac would eventually get shot down” - Larry Merchant

                    “You gonna have to punch with’em instead of keep waiting for a spot. You inside looking for a perfect shot. THERE IS NONE” - Richardson

                    "Pac isn't ready for a fighter like Mayweather" - Roach

                    Biased Video, but funny

                    More in depth info

                    "The ball is now in Pac’s court" - Brian Kinney

                    The fight will get made and Pac will "give in" just like he flip flopped on the cut off dates. Excuses will not be tolerated from his camp.

                    Size will matter, skills will matter. Listen to Master coach and hall of fame trainer Freddie Roach, he knows what he's talking about. He doesn't like the Mayweather fight one bit. Lets remember who trained Hoya when Mayweather beat him. Lets also remember who trained James Toney (twice) when he tested positive for steroids.

                    Team Pac has been shook from day one. This is just another day for Mayweather to talk his (money making) trash. Nothing is different. If people want to see Mayweather possibly beat you would be calling for a much bigger fighter in Sergio Martinez or P.WILL! Little Pac is not the man to do it.
                    i agree, 2 of the last fighters that mayweather fought, Marquez and Hatton, were smaller but yet agressive and mayweather countered them and dropped both of them as they charged in, it resulted in a ko and a lopsided victory. Pac is way superior to both right now and likely as a result of peds, however i believe that juice or no juice, if they fight, when it is said and done, Floyd will destroy Pacman and alot of people will be saying why all the fuss by floyd just to make it look this easy, but all floyd wants is to fight pac on a level playin field, and honestly i dont see how it is a level playing field.

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                    • #90


                      Ariza

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