Who is the man to take Calzaghes mantle at 168lbs?

[poeticlsykuac]

No-body in history would "whip" Calzaghe i also doubt ward beats him.

RJJ would, Toney would, SRR would. Do you want a full list? Hopkins at 4d something barely lost. Do you really think a Hopkins that put the smack down on Trinidad would do that to Cal? Seriously man.

[Kris Silver]

It's obviously the winner of Dirrell vs Ward. The winner would school Bute and be the best super middleweight ever. I think the winner of this tournament has done way more then Calzaghe's ever done at super middleweight to take that claim.

I mean nobody's going to beat him in defenses, but who were the top guys he beat at 167? Lacey, Kessler, Manfredo, Bika? Bika & Manfredo weren't even good enough to cut the tournament. Lacey was a hype job. And Kessler isn't as good as we thought he was and Ward actually stopped him. Everybody in this tournament is better then Calzaghe's whole SMW resume.

So thats why I believe the winner will be the greatest super middleweight ever but it's up to them to prove that. I doubt they will stick around as long as Calzaghe did even though they can still beat up Pavlik and Bute, but I'm sure they'll want to fight Bad Chad soon. I think they'll be the best QUALITY but won't prove it with number of defenses.

Dirrell lost to Froch, and Ward has merely won one major fight and only just won a world title.

To say the winner of those two, instantly becomes the best Super MW of the past 25+ years of it's existence is quite simply jumping the gun to the extent it's fucking ridiculous.

2 years ago Carl Froch nor Arthur Abraham weren't much less as fighters to what they are now, and they were never even mentioned in the same sentence, or considered top p4p potential fighters. The division loses a dominant champ, the belts free up, and the best left face the best left in a tournament and loads of people are hyped into thinking it's now suddenly deep. IT's NOT THAT MUCH.

Now I know they've done some good things since ok, but the fact remains they are not suddenly anywhere near the level of Calzaghe.

The same goes for Andre Ward, and Andre Dirrell, it's simply un-acceptable to put someone down as the best ever SMW based on mostly one/two wins, when talking about decades of fighters, scores of top contenders and hundreds of fighters.

It's freaking ridiculous now matter how you dress it up.

I respect and like Ward, but I'm not convinced he'd beat the Eubank Calzaghe did that night, or the Hopkins Calzaghe faced on that night at ANY weight. That's picking a mere two of what yes, could have been a better resume. Still he went undefeated.

Sorry but I'm just sick of such serious deluded over hyping of someone, which is so often sudden and short lived. Similar things were said of Pavlik when he beat Taylor the 2nd time, and the illusion has faded with one crucial thing you fail to properly factor in - the test of time.

[rizkybizness]

kessler's sister

[T.McGrady]

RJJ would, Toney would, SRR would. Do you want a full list? Hopkins at 4d something barely lost. Do you really think a Hopkins that put the smack down on Trinidad would do that to Cal? Seriously man.

Add one more word..."PRIME"

[daggum]

i believe you meant to say who is the man to take sven ottke's mantle at 168 pounds.

[NinjaMan!]

No-body in history would "whip" Calzaghe i also doubt ward beats him.

Yeah right Calzaghe is a over protected bum who never fought anybody worth a damn. His whole career is a joke and there is a long list of **** cans on his resume the likes of which boxing has never seen.

[The_Demon]

I think Ward

[boxingking500]

calzaghe might have a crap resume, but he still puts a wooping on everybody in the super six, bute and the other SMW of today.....

[da beatdown]

ward in calzaghe's league, yeah rite lol. Bute reminds me of cal a lil wit the quick hands but with more power minus the work rate. I just want the winner of super 6 to face bute(he still will be champ unless dawson comes down)

[lfc19titles]

It's obviously the winner of Dirrell vs Ward. The winner would school Bute and be the best super middleweight ever. I think the winner of this tournament has done way more then Calzaghe's ever done at super middleweight to take that claim.

I mean nobody's going to beat him in defenses, but who were the top guys he beat at 167? Lacey, Kessler, Manfredo, Bika? Bika & Manfredo weren't even good enough to cut the tournament. Lacey was a hype job. And Kessler isn't as good as we thought he was and Ward actually stopped him. Everybody in this tournament is better then Calzaghe's whole SMW resume.

So thats why I believe the winner will be the greatest super middleweight ever but it's up to them to prove that. I doubt they will stick around as long as Calzaghe did even though they can still beat up Pavlik and Bute, but I'm sure they'll want to fight Bad Chad soon. I think they'll be the best QUALITY but won't prove it with number of defenses.

Calzaghe ruined lacy, he would give a good fight and maybe even win against the current super six fighters when he was in his prime

Dirrell is a hype job, no way is he that good. He was on the verge of getting k0d vs abraham and will get k0d down the line soon.

Ward should have been dqd 4-5 times over against kessler, 6 head buts and 4 elbows.

Nobody is the man to take over calzaghes mantle, he was way way way more talented than any super six fighter in the competition right now. Just to compare, dirrell vs froch was a 50-50 fight and we know calzaghe would destroy and school froch. just shows how since the best has retired from 168, the good are now being overhyped

calzaghe would whoop any of them even if he comes out of retirement now, he was just a much better boxer