Manny Pacquiao Is in Trouble Once the Hype Vanishes

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  • MariusJin
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    #41
    Originally posted by champ_kw
    I don't agree wholeheartedly with the article, but it's sprinkled with some truth. Pac is a hype job. And there's nothing really wrong with that either. He's exciting to watch. And that's about where the props stop for me. I'm a fan of boxing skill set. And it's clear that his skill set isn't on par with Floyd's by a long shot. But this is boxing, and he has the same chance that the other 40 opponents had against Floyd.....and that's just a puncher's chance.

    I'm just wondering how the BWAA, and all these other organizations are going to feel if Pac is downright embarrassed by a superior boxer. Especially if said boxer credentials warranted just as much, if not more, recognition throughout the decade.
    despite being filipino, floyd is my idol in the ring str8 up. regarding this fighter of the decade award, to me there's no doubt that BWAA has picked the right person. what pac accomplished for his size is pure magic. win or loose vs floyd, it doesn't change what he has already accomplished.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Bubba Chunday
      I dont see how a man who has moved up so many divisions to fight the best is a hype job.

      Very few fighters ever have come close to doing what he has.

      U could argue he is over rated and isnt nearly a p4p ATG. But to say he is a hype job is ridiculous.

      A hype job is ranked very highly without ever really backing it up. Pac has fought great competition, and won most in style.

      It isnt about his skill set. Its about his accomplishments.

      If Pac is a hype job, what does that make every other fighter?

      fighting tailormade fighters, all coming off losses
      is not fighting the best.

      and the bold is fact

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        #43
        This guy is right about somethings and wrong about others. The *****'s will flock to it and the *******s will red k the TS to death. Only thing that matters is that PBF and Pac fight soon.

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          #44
          Originally posted by MariusJin
          despite being filipino, floyd is my idol in the ring str8 up. regarding this fighter of the decade award, to me there's no doubt that BWAA has picked the right person. what pac accomplished for his size is pure magic. win or loose vs floyd, it doesn't change what he has already accomplished.

          then maybe you have forgotten that floyd moved up in weight early and was always outweighed by his opponents while pac was draining himself to fight guys smaller than him.

          whats pure magic about that?

          based on your logic, the award shoudl have def gone to floyd

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            #45
            Originally posted by MariusJin
            despite being filipino, floyd is my idol in the ring str8 up. regarding this fighter of the decade award, to me there's no doubt that BWAA has picked the right person. what pac accomplished for his size is pure magic. win or loose vs floyd, it doesn't change what he has already accomplished.
            Pac deserved fighter of the decade when you consider floyd "retired" for almost 2 yrs during the decade and some of floyd' s most dominat work was done before 2000.

            Too many pac fans think that award means the boxing writers think Pac is the better boxer. I don't think they do. It's similar to Mosley. Before the fight alot of writers spoke about how great Mosley was, fought all tough guys (all true) had a better resume than floyd. Then when asked who they picked to win almost all picked floyd.

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              #46
              Originally posted by yesir

              fighting tailormade fighters, all coming off losses
              is not fighting the best.

              and the bold is fact
              They were bigger dangerous quality opponents, who posed a serious threat to him. The fact he beat them proves he isnt hype.
              All fighters chose carefully who they face based on their style and money.
              I dont think Pac is any different.

              Like i said, in no way is he a hype job. U can call him overrated, but not a mere hypejob.

              Plus, its not a fact they were all coming off loses. Hatton, Cotto, Oscar etc werent coming off losses. They had lost previously, but had come back. He cant be criticised for that. What is he meant to do, only fight people who have never lost??

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                #47
                Originally posted by Big Dunn
                Pac deserved fighter of the decade when you consider floyd "retired" for almost 2 yrs during the decade and some of floyd' s most dominat work was done before 2000.

                Too many pac fans think that award means the boxing writers think Pac is the better boxer. I don't think they do. It's similar to Mosley. Before the fight alot of writers spoke about how great Mosley was, fought all tough guys (all true) had a better resume than floyd. Then when asked who they picked to win almost all picked floyd.
                you are kidding right? before 2000? really? haha

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                  #48
                  Bubba:

                  please don't tell me david diaz and ricky hatton posed great risks. Cotto was less risky because they fought at 145. Yes ODH was favored and picked to win by everyone but that doesn't mean the fight was dangerous.

                  I did think clottey would be tough but he decided not to throw any punches.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by yesir
                    you are kidding right? before 2000? really? haha
                    Relax and think objectively. Yes Genaro Hernandez and angel manfredy were in 1999. Corrales was 01 Castillo was 02.But when you take almost 2 yrs off its hard to be fighter of the decade.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Bubba Chunday
                      They were bigger dangerous quality opponents, who posed a serious threat to him. The fact he beat them proves he isnt hype.
                      All fighters chose carefully who they face based on their style and money.
                      I dont think Pac is any different.

                      Like i said, in no way is he a hype job. U can call him overrated, but not a mere hypejob.

                      Plus, its not a fact they were all coming off loses. Hatton, Cotto, Oscar etc werent coming off losses. They had lost previously, but had come back. He cant be criticised for that. What is he meant to do, only fight people who have never lost??
                      go look at the resumes of the fighters pac choose to fight since coming to 140. they were all coming off big loss and or fights at catch weights.

                      that cant be disputed.

                      its hype b.c he didnt take the biggest challeneges. so stop lying.

                      hatton was already ko brutally

                      he fought a severely drained DLH who was beat up by FLoyd and even Forbes. when if he wanted to "challenge" himself, he could have refused DLH's offer to fight at 147 and fought above 150 or at 154 to prove a point...he didnt

                      he fought cotto when he could have fought the guy who ****ed cotto up

                      he fought clottey who lost to cotto and never wins important fights when he could have fought floyd or mosley but he refused both.

                      he took on the best my ass. not even close.
                      Last edited by Pacquiao'd; 06-15-2010, 12:39 PM.

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