Floyd could never KO PAC, but he could box circles around him!!

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  • QADASHBANYAH1
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    #21
    Originally posted by brick wall
    that's actually floyd's first reaction when under attack...he would throw a one or two counter then would slip back to his bread and butter...defense. Anybody that can crack floyd's great defense has the best chance of beating him.
    who has ever cracked his defense?? Where is the blueprint for it?? pac doesnt even jab!!!!

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    • NesNY
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      #22
      Floyd didn't even bother attempting to stop Mosley...a dead, tired, gassed, hurt Mosley.

      Please explain why Pacquiao would be different.

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      • BigStereotype
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        #23
        Originally posted by QADASHBANYAH1
        who has ever cracked his defense?? Where is the blueprint for it?? pac doesnt even jab!!!!


        Someone's gotta make the blueprint, right? Now, I'm 50/50 on this fight, but saying that Floyd can't lose because nobody's ever beaten him is idiotic. I'm sure even you can see how circular that argument is.

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        • Chuckguy
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          #24
          Originally posted by teardrops
          pacman has improved a hell of a lot since his fights with marquez.
          no he hasnt
          he has just fought the same kind of fighter
          he has mastered that match up

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          • QADASHBANYAH1
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            #25
            Originally posted by trainhard_187
            Wow. good analysis.. Manny doesnt move his head.. How long did it take you to figure that one out..

            If he doesnt move his head and is an easy hit answer me this, why didnt Clottey stop Pac, or Cotto walk away slaughtered, or Hatton end up laying on the canvas, or better yet the Golden Boy with the most experience in boxing then you and me combined figure out that Manny was east to hit and he doesnt move his head..

            If this was true then one of these four guys would of figured that out and would of gotten a win over Pac..
            DELAHOYA WAS OLD AND WEIGHT DRAINED EVEN ROACH ADMITTED THAT, SO ITS NOT LIKE i AM HATING ON HIM FOR THAT.

            Clottey threw very few punches, but it looked as if manny had been in a war, go look at his face after teh fight..

            HATTON WAS CAUGHT EARLY BY A WILD HOOK. THERE WAS NO BOXING INVOLVED, IT WAS OVER VERY QUICKLY.

            FACTS:


            pac doesnt jab, you will not beat mayweather without a jab.

            PACS ARMS ARE SHORTER AGAINT A MASTER COUNTER PUNCHER.

            PAC WILL FACE SOMEONE JUST AS FAST AS HIM. BUT WITH BETTER BOXING SKILLS.

            PAC WILL BE FORCED TO EXCHANGE AS HE CANNOT BOX, HE CANNOT JAB, JUST AS FLOYD TOLD SHANE " LET ME SEE YOUR ****IN JAB"

            Oscar was doing okay with the jab, the jab sets other punches up. Its no secret that pac has not fought anyone with good speed or foot movement

            hatton, come forward
            clottey turtle shell
            COTTO WELL LETS JUST SAY HIS MOST IMPROVED SHOWING IS WITH EMMANUEL STEWARD AND IT WAS FOOTWORK! Didnt have any against pac.
            DELAHOYA WAS BEAT BY SHANE BECAUSE HE HAS THAT BAD FOOTWORK, COMPARED TO SOMEONE LIKE MAYWEATHER ETC.
            I mean you should honestly take a look at pacs flaws rather than always focusing on his strengths.

            floyd has trouble with the jab. The quickest punch any fighter can throw.

            Manny doesnt throw them and if he starts, he will get hit by longer arms, and more effective countering.

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            • QADASHBANYAH1
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              #26
              Originally posted by BigStereotype


              Someone's gotta make the blueprint, right? Now, I'm 50/50 on this fight, but saying that Floyd can't lose because nobody's ever beaten him is idiotic. I'm sure even you can see how circular that argument is.
              ONCE AGAIN I never stated floyd couldnt lose, but he wont against pac.

              what I am saying is that you guys are asking someone with shorter arms, no jab to beat floyd.

              HELL ROGER MAYWEATHER ALREADY TOLD YOU GUYS THERES ONLY ONE WAY TO BEAT FLOYD, AND THATS A GOOD JAB.


              WHY DO YOU THINK THEY MADE FUN OF SHANES PITTY PAT JAB??

              There is the chance that pac could catch him slipping of course, but honestly with shorter arms, against the most accurate puncher in the game, and once again pac doesnt throw jabs!!!! everything will be telegraphed he will have to be the aggressor, as floyd will not slug it out with pac.... PAC WILL TRHOW HOOKS AND WILD PUNCHES, WHAT ELSE CAN HE DO TO GET IN CLOSE? RUN IN?? DONT YOU THINK FLOYD WANTS THAT? WHEN RUNNING IN YOU HAVE NO DEFENSE! I will bet that PAC LOSES, AND I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT SOME BOXINGSCENE POINTS EITHER.

              PEOPLE wonder why floyd doesnt throw combinations anymore....

              its simple, thats can turn into a slugging fest, and a counterpuncher is not at home slugging.

              YOU UP FOR IT?
              Last edited by QADASHBANYAH1; 06-14-2010, 07:06 PM.

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              • V.WEBB
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                #27
                Never say never in this sport..(or any sport for that matter). I actually have Mayweather stopping Manny late. But we will see when they meet.

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                • QADASHBANYAH1
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Chuckguy
                  no he hasnt
                  he has just fought the same kind of fighter
                  he has mastered that match up
                  exactly!!!!

                  the same flat footed no speed fighters...... he hasnt even faced one single counter puncher since MARQUEZ who gave him hell, and now hes going up against the man in which marquez didnt win a single round against.

                  this really is easy work.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by BigStereotype


                    Someone's gotta make the blueprint, right? Now, I'm 50/50 on this fight, but saying that Floyd can't lose because nobody's ever beaten him is idiotic. I'm sure even you can see how circular that argument is.
                    your number one favorite fighter already told yall manny cant beat floyd....



                    take your favorite fighters advice.

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                    • mathed
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                      #30
                      Dude was starving himself to make 126 and was still KOing people at that stage. He moves up in weight where he can actually eat on a regular basis and people start acting lie he has super powers or somethng.

                      Pac's KO% pre David Diaz:

                      33 ko's/tko's out of 46 fights = 71.7%

                      Pac's KO% post Diaz and including the Diaz fight:

                      3 ko's/tko's out of 4 fights = 75%

                      So when did Pac become this superman on super, dooper, ultra-potent roids?

                      I think some people can't face the truth that Pac is a beast and is gonna kick the snot out of Mayweather. This is why there are so many complications with getting the fight signed. Pac already has loses and his marketability is better than ever but if Mayweather loses his 0, he has no marketability at all.........Mayweather, Ellerbe, and the rest of his camp don't like the idea of not having a cash cow anymore.

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