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  • #21
    Originally posted by JK1700 View Post
    I dont think anyone wants him to test positive, Iv'e never heard anyone say that. All people want is for him to take the test so they can make the fight. That's the reason for the hate and dislike for Pacquiao, I'm not sure why people hate Floyd for requesting drug testing. Especially when it's something which improves the sport.

    The thing I dislike about these "extreme *******s" is that they fail to understand simple logic and just post a load of crap. One poster named "Pasawayako" does these posts trying to claim that USADA is crap and the testing is not right. I just dont understand some people but that's what the ignore list is for. I dont want to waste my time with these people
    *****s want him to test positive man and whos all people want him to take the test... whos this ALL people cus last time i check majority of the media are on pac's side especially since they know there's already a DRUG TEST which is in place and pac has passed it ten times.. there's your knowledge

    everyone in the media also know that pac is willing to take the BS blood test that test like 0.000001% of peds besides urine.. or mainly HGH and EPO mircera... what's the logic behind wanting this blood test and willing to put up with the implementation of testing two DRUGS that r neither beneficial to you nor UNDETECABLE under the compromises made by pac since day 1

    where's your logic to know that when a man says 5 years in the past that bloods affect him and stuck with that notion even to the point of fighting wheen logically it was he who has been wanting this fight all along, it was he.. who made the first move to fight floyd, it was he, who answered to the boxing/cotto/pac fans when he TKO cotto..

    where's your logic in recognizing the fact that tygart said hes not worried about the 14 day window.. hes worried about what happens b4 that

    do u logically think someone whos unclean like pac would even want a blood test and even proposed an unlimited everyday urine test which will test 99% of all PEDS???

    i don't know what logic u r spewing that *******s or pacfans arent saying but im sure youre the one whos lacking logic here

    mayweather is scared.. he is showing symptomps of a coward.. logically therefore he is.. its not a matter of being a *******, it is a matter of being a normal person drawing from your own experience as a person outside of boxing who came across cowards in the past and see how mayweather stacks in the present... im sure alot of people have come across a coward or 2 and floyd is exactly like them, fact
    Last edited by feefiflofum; 06-14-2010, 05:13 AM.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by feefiflofum View Post
      *****s want him to test positive man and whos all people want him to take the test... whos this ALL people cus last time i check majority of the media are on pac's side especially since they know there's already a DRUG TEST which is in place and pac has passed it ten times.. there's your knowledge

      everyone in the media also know that pac is willing to take the BS blood test that test like 0.000001% of peds besides urine.. or mainly HGH and EPO mircera... what's the logic behind wanting this blood test and willing to put up with the implementation of testing two DRUGS that r neither beneficial to you nor UNDETECABLE under the compromises made by pac since day 1

      where's your logic to know that when a man says 5 years in the past that bloods affect him and stuck with that notion even to the point of fighting wheen logically it was he who has been wanting this fight all along, it was he.. who made the first move to fight floyd, it was he, who answered to the boxing/cotto/pac fans when he TKO cotto..

      where's your logic in recognizing the fact that tygart said hes not worried about the 14 day window.. hes worried about what happens b4 that

      do u logically think someone whos unclean like pac would even want a blood test and even proposed an unlimited everyday urine test which will test 99% of all PEDS???

      i don't know what logic u r spewing that *******s or pacfans arent saying but im sure youre the one whos lacking logic here

      mayweather is scared.. he is showing symptomps of a coward.. logically therefore he is.. its not a matter of being a *******, it is a matter of being a normal person drawing from your own experience as a person outside of boxing who came across cowards and see how mayweather stacks... im sure alot of people have come across a coward or 2 and floyd is exactly like them
      1-OST is important because it's random unlike the commision's test .
      2-HGH and EPO are important PEDs .and they are not 0.00001 of the drugs.
      3-in morales fight, he felt weak because blood was drawn 3 days before the fight ,although this weakness has no scientific basis and it's mainly psycological(which we don't underestimate) , he could have ordered 3,4, or 5 day cut-off, instead of 14 days .
      4-bring me a scientific evidence that human body can't benefit from HGH and EPO in 14-days window and i will admit that pac has the right to order 14 days.
      you claim to talk logic, yet, you neglected the points above .
      Last edited by dr.x; 06-14-2010, 05:48 AM.

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      • #23
        If Manny tested positive, a lot of currently butthurt *****s will be happy.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by JK1700 View Post
          I dont think anyone wants him to test positive, Iv'e never heard anyone say that. All people want is for him to take the test so they can make the fight. That's the reason for the hate and dislike for Pacquiao, I'm not sure why people hate Floyd for requesting drug testing. Especially when it's something which improves the sport.

          The thing I dislike about these "extreme *******s" is that they fail to understand simple logic and just post a load of crap. One poster named "Pasawayako" does these posts trying to claim that USADA is crap and the testing is not right. I just dont understand some people but that's what the ignore list is for. I dont want to waste my time with these people
          Originally posted by dr.x View Post
          1-OST is important because it's random unlike the commision's test .
          2-HGH and EPO are important PEDs .and they are not 0.00001 of the drugs.
          3-in morales fight, he felt weak because blood was drawn 3 days before the fight ,although this weakness has no scientific basis and it's mainly psycological(which we don't underestimate) , he could have ordered 3,4, or 5 day cut-off, instead of 14 days .
          4-bring me a scientific evidence that human body can't benefit from HGH and EPO in 14-days window and i will admit that pac has the right to order 14 days.
          1- hows an everyday urine test logically worse than a random blood test that leaves u the chance of not getting tested for 18 days kinda like what we saw with the mayweather mosley random test?? its not, its logically inferior, why? as rare as this scenario is ill post it anyways..suppose someone by pure shred of luck and chance, inject PEDS out of desperation and then he happen to do it on the day he didnt get tested.. logically he would pass the test with flying colors, with urine, there's no chance of that happening..... by the way do u think NSAC cant go random if they were asked to? youre an idiot

          2- HGH is not an important ped, i calling you out on your bs for your lack of knowledge on it.. FYI, WADA or the world anti-doping agency funded a study/research by the galvan institute of medicine that was done last year and released around the time mosley and mayweather were tested, they have found that NOT ONLY IS HGH nonbeneficial, it has no effect on you athletically, aerobically or physically.... UNLESS YOURE A SPRINTER.. dr.ken ho who head the study specifically said this "HGH can help sprinters by increasing their time by 4% in 100 meter races but if you are in any other sport, i suggest you throw your syringes in the bin"
          WADA is the world anti-doping agency whose drug testing guidelines are shared with USADA of which they follow and vice versa. WADA finding out that HGH is not benefical to you directly affects and changes what type of drug USADA looks to test for.. as of right now, HGH is logically irrelevant when it comes to testing PEDS for its logicallly nonbeneficialy, to test something that doesnt benefit you would be like to test me for something non-beneficial like sugar pills, there's no point in testing HGH
          Epo is important but not when it comes to blood test, logically since majority of the EPO or like 99.999% testing is done with urine, like "the clear", urinalysis/urine test is then by far the superior test of EPO

          EPO mircera testing, the only EPO in existence that cant be tested with urine(0.0001% of epo) is done with the blood test only because it cant pass through the urine... but it is also for this reason that it stays in the body for a long time and can be detected in the system even in small amounts in a span of 45 days...so even if its 14 or 45 days away from the fight or a 14 or 45 day cut off, it would be alright!!
          3) thats your opinion dude, regardless of you thinking it is psychological or not, fact is i can bet you 10k of my points to make a prick in ur hand and let it bleed a couple of teaspoons, while ur at it, dont eat or drink for the next 3 days, youre emulating weight draining to make weight oh and go to the nearest gym and spar with the, if you cant take advantage of google and read up on the science, you can always do the science yourself.. i guarantee you, you will not be well in the next 3 days
          4) drawing from what I SAID ABOUT EPO AND HGH, logically there's no reason for a must have OST test, it's redundant, you dont have to take my word for it, you can look up everything ive said and see they r factual

          so there u go.. u can deny it but when u do.. its probably because the nuthuggery is kicking in
          Last edited by feefiflofum; 06-14-2010, 06:15 AM.

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          • #25
            youd really want that.............................so floyd can be FOTD.........by default wouldnt you.........lol

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            • #26
              A lot of *****s would be happy if Pac tests positive because they are more want to see Pac vs OST than Pac vs Floyd itself.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by dr.x View Post
                3-in morales fight, he felt weak because blood was drawn 3 days before the fight ,although this weakness has no scientific basis and it's mainly psycological(which we don't underestimate) , he could have ordered 3,4, or 5 day cut-off, instead of 14 days .
                Yup, feeling weak during training camp is no problem........
                Last edited by Bring It On; 06-14-2010, 06:23 AM.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by feefiflofum View Post
                  1- hows an everyday urine test logically worse than a random blood test that leaves u the chance of not getting tested for 18 days kinda like what we saw with the mayweather mosley random test?? its not, its logically inferior, why? as rare as this scenario is ill post it anyways..suppose someone by pure shred of luck and chance, inject PEDS out of desperation and then he happen to do it on the day he didnt get tested.. logically he would pass the test with flying colors, with urine, there's no chance of that happening..... by the way do u think NSAC cant go random if they were asked to? youre an idiot

                  2- HGH is not an important ped, i calling you out on your bs for your lack of knowledge on it.. FYI, WADA or the world anti-doping agency funded a study/research by the galvan institute of medicine that was done last year and released around the time mosley and mayweather were tested, they have found that NOT ONLY IS HGH nonbeneficial, it has no effect on you athletically, aerobically or physically.... UNLESS YOURE A SPRINTER.. dr.ken ho who head the study specifically said this "HGH can help sprinters by increasing their time by 4% in 100 meter races but if you are in any other sport, i suggest you throw your syringes in the bin"
                  WADA is the world anti-doping agency whose drug testing guidelines are shared with USADA of which they follow and vice versa. WADA finding out that HGH is not benefical to you directly affects and changes what type of drug USADA looks to test for.. as of right now, HGH is logically irrelevant when it comes to testing PEDS for its logicallly nonbeneficialy, to test something that doesnt benefit you would be like to test me for something non-beneficial like sugar pills, there's no point in testing HGH
                  Epo is important but not when it comes to blood test, logically since majority of the EPO or like 99.999% testing is done with urine, like "the clear", urinalysis/urine test is then by far the superior test of EPO

                  EPO mircera testing, the only EPO in existence that cant be tested with urine(0.0001% of epo) is done with the blood test only because it cant pass through the urine... but it is also for this reason that it stays in the body for a long time and can be detected in the system even in small amounts in a span of 45 days...so even if its 14 or 45 days away from the fight or a 14 or 45 day cut off, it would be alright!!
                  3) thats your opinion dude, regardless of you thinking it is psychological or not, fact is i can bet you 10k of my points to make a prick in ur hand and let it bleed a couple of teaspoons, while ur at it, dont eat or drink for the next 3 days, youre emulating weight draining to make weight oh and go to the nearest gym and spar with the, if you cant take advantage of google and read up on the science, you can always do the science yourself.. i guarantee you, you will not be well in the next 3 days
                  4) drawing from what I SAID ABOUT EPO AND HGH, logically there's no reason for a must have OST test, it's redundant, you dont have to take my word for it, you can look up everything ive said and see they r factual

                  so there u go.. u can deny it but when u do.. its probably because the nuthuggery is kicking in
                  one of the BEST informative posts i've seen so far. I'm saving this for future reference. BTW. May i ask for links for the above facts you mentioned? Its always better to have those in case someone has doubts.

                  Thanks in advance for the links!

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                  • #29
                    All athletes who test positive for steroids or any other banned substances in their sport should be stripped of all their awards, accolades and banned for life.. Pacquiao included

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                    • #30
                      I wouldn't be surprised if he tests positive.

                      Not knowing what Alex Ariza concocts in his daily sustinence is no excuse.

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