Julio Cesar Chavez Sr. (1992) vs. Manny Pacquiao (2009) @ 140?

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  • Doctor_Tenma
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    #141
    Originally posted by Timmy Chans
    Bro I'm not basing this solely on the Cotto fight. I have seen sparring videos of him letting guys land flush on his midsection. I just can't see Pac getting hurt by body shots here and there. Maybe an accumulation over the course of several rounds, but then again I don't see Chavez landing that many body shots on Pacquiao. Just my two cents though and how I see things.

    Also Pac didn't work on his midsection until after the Marquez II fight I believe (that stick thing) and also did a lot of core training with Ariza around that time.
    I don't know man, I haven't seen anyone attack Pacquiao's midsection since Erik Morales and Marquez. We do know Mayweather throws uppercuts, and straight right hands down the middle, I guess we'll have to wait.

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    • F l i c k e r
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      #142
      Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
      I don't know man, I haven't seen anyone attack Pacquiao's midsection since Erik Morales and Marquez. We do know Mayweather throws uppercuts, and straight right hands down the middle, I guess we'll have to wait.

      Don't forget the poison that is injected from his jab to the body.

      No one ever notices it. But it neutralizes all of his opponents at WW. Most recently Mosley. When Floyd jabbed the body, Mosley all of a sudden died standing.

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      • ummeed
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        #143
        Originally posted by F l i c k e r
        ^^^^ Exactly.



        You idiots saying Pac never wins fantasy fights. How about explaining why you think Pacquiao would win instead of going ******. And you guys wonder why he can't get an edge? How about giving a valid reason why he would win. Oh, or is it that you guys don't know how to breakdown fights?
        do you know why it's hard to breakdown a pac fantasy fight? coz the fcker always brings something new every damn fight.

        from right hooks, to uppercuts, to boxing around, having chin at higher weights, pac is at this point almost unpredictable every new fight.

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        • F l i c k e r
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          #144
          Originally posted by ummeed
          do you know why it's hard to breakdown a pac fantasy fight? coz the fcker always brings something new every damn fight.

          from right hooks, to uppercuts, to boxing around, having chin at higher weights, pac is at this point almost unpredictable every new fight.

          Not really.

          Pacquiao 90% of the time goes for the head. 10% to the body. 90% of the time it will be straights. 5% hooks, 5% uppercuts. When fighting a mobile opponent, he bounces and then stops to punch. Very linear with an in-and-out style. When fighting stationary opponents, he doesn't have to do much. He simply waits for the opponent to open up and then assaults them. Which is why when he fought Clottey, he didn't know what the **** to do. As evident from his double punch attempt. He was lost. Isn't exactly the hardest thing to punch either.

          Not that hard to compare and contrast that to another fighter.

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          • Dick Buffman
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            #145
            Originally posted by F l i c k e r
            Not really.

            Pacquiao 90% of the time goes for the head. 10% to the body. 90% of the time it will be straights. 5% hooks, 5% uppercuts. When fighting a mobile opponent, he bounces and then stops to punch. Very linear with an in-and-out style. When fighting stationary opponents, he doesn't have to do much. He simply waits for the opponent to open up and then assaults them. Which is why when he fought Clottey, he didn't know what the **** to do. As evident from his double punch attempt. He was lost. Isn't exactly the hardest thing to punch either.

            Not that hard to compare and contrast that to another fighter.
            You're selling Fudgepacky's dynamism and creativity short. The ******* above you is right about him showing new wrinkles in his game.

            I used to side with Mayweather, but the more I think about it, I think Pac will light his ass up.

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            • ManOfVictory
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              #146
              There is no way in hell Pac beats JCC, it wouldnt go past 9. JCC by KO

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              • camp
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                #147
                Mexican power

                Hola soy mexicano me podrias dar la contraseña para ver al increible Julio Cesar este cabron si tenia poder

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                • nachorjj
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                  #148
                  Originally posted by El C@cique@PR
                  Chavez TKO11. Camacho was way faster than Pacquiao. So the speed is not a problem for Chavez. Chavez took huge bombs from Edwin Rosario who was twice the puncher Pacquiao is.



                  I say either pac close UD or Chavez TKO11
                  Pacquiao have a lot more power and his style isn't like Camacho. I see a fight like the Barrera, Ud or late stopped

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                  • skillswin
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by ummeed
                    do you know why it's hard to breakdown a pac fantasy fight? coz the fcker always brings something new every damn fight.

                    from right hooks, to uppercuts, to boxing around, having chin at higher weights, pac is at this point almost unpredictable every new fight.
                    LOL pacquiao is the same fighter who lost to JMM 2 times + power and speed but boxing skills?? the same...

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                    • Phil Ivey
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                      #150
                      Pacquiao via UD or SD, Chavez took bombs from Meldrick and he had incredible hand speed like Pac... I don't think Chavez can pressure him enough under 12 rds with Manny's foot work and speed. Both are VERY durable fighters, both would take a great amount of punishment in this fight.

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