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  • #11
    Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
    In my opinion Urine testing on its own is worthless - Conte

    http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxin...atch-cheaters/


    “Most fighters open training camp about eight weeks before a fight,” Conte says. “They only way to ensure they’re really clean is to have some type of random, unannounced testing, and both blood- and urine-testing.”


    If that sounds like a semi-accusatory finger being pointed at Manny Pacquiao, whose March 13 megafight with Floyd Mayweather Jr. fell apart because of Pac-Man’s incensed refusal to participate in a higher level of drug-testing than ever has been implemented in boxing, so be it.


    “Is it su****ious the way (Pacquiao) has gained so much lean muscle mass while retaining and even seemingly improving his power and speed? Yes,” Conte says. “It is highly su****ious. But it’s difficult to make any type of allegations against him because he’s never tested positive for illegal drugs. The problem is that he has been subjected, as is the case with all boxers, to the standard urine testing that, in my opinion, is worthless.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by shogunn View Post
      haha, that article is in JAN

      heres what conte is saying now.

      "Starting to test fighters five weeks out is a joke. Under their system, to get caught using, let's say, HGH or EPO , you would have to really be a moron. Tygart acts like he is the biggest sherriff in town and he talks about full disclosure and transparency.

      "What is random about that? Random, to me, is 24/7/365. I have real issues with Tygart and with the USADA. He talks about their testing being foolproof and that is simply nonsense.

      "Manny Pacquiao has now came up and said that he is willing to do the testing all the way up to 14 days before, my opinion is, they need to make this fight. Let's get it on. That's a compromise that should be accepted by Mayweather and all parties concerned need to understand just because Manny Pacquiao agreed to do the USADA testing and do what Shane Mosley and Floyd Mayweather did doesn't necessarily mean they're clean.

      "For whatever claims they said about Floyd being drug testing for the Mosley fight, he was tested 19 days before the fight. Let's get real here. Floyd's saying my way or the highway, well that's BS. It's got to be a compromise and there's never going 100% (accurate test) and we need to acknowledge that and I think Manny has made an effort to compromise and move to Floyd's direction and I think Manny needs to be applauded for that." -- Victor Conte

      dated MAY

      http://www.examiner.com/x-5699-Boxin...andy-from-baby
      Did he say anthing that changes this quote I cant see it .

      “Is it su****ious the way (Pacquiao) has gained so much lean muscle mass while retaining and even seemingly improving his power and speed? Yes,” Conte says. “It is highly su****ious. But it’s difficult to make any type of allegations against him because he’s never tested positive for illegal drugs. The problem is that he has been subjected, as is the case with all boxers, to the standard urine testing that, in my opinion, is worthless.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Ronson View Post

        hahaha, not tired of PED threads are you?

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
          Did he say anthing that changes this quote I cant see it .

          “Is it su****ious the way (Pacquiao) has gained so much lean muscle mass while retaining and even seemingly improving his power and speed? Yes,” Conte says. “It is highly su****ious. But it’s difficult to make any type of allegations against him because he’s never tested positive for illegal drugs. The problem is that he has been subjected, as is the case with all boxers, to the standard urine testing that, in my opinion, is worthless.
          haha, yes he did. He said 14 days of retracting blood is acceptable, and the way floyd only had 5 weeks of testing was bull****.


          Are you blind or did not get that part? let me requote it for you, so you dont selectively read it again

          Starting to test fighters five weeks out is a joke. Under their system, to get caught using, let's say, HGH or EPO , you would have to really be a moron. Tygart acts like he is the biggest sherriff in town and he talks about full disclosure and transparency.

          Manny Pacquiao has now came up and said that he is willing to do the testing all the way up to 14 days before, my opinion is, they need to make this fight. Let's get it on. That's a compromise that should be accepted by Mayweather and all parties concerned need to understand just because Manny Pacquiao agreed to do the USADA testing and do what Shane Mosley and Floyd Mayweather did doesn't necessarily mean they're clean.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by shogunn View Post
            haha, yes he did. He said 14 days of retracting blood is acceptable, and the way floyd only had 5 weeks of testing was bull****.


            Are you blind or did not get that part? let me requote it for you, so you dont selectively read it again
            Selective reading of course.. Pick and choose what suits the agenda.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by shogunn View Post
              haha, yes he did. He said 14 days of retracting blood is acceptable, and the way floyd only had 5 weeks of testing was bull****.


              Are you blind or did not get that part? let me requote it for you, so you dont selectively read it again
              But he still thinks Pac is highly su****ious as he quoted he also said urine testing is worthless , your always going on about why is Floyd asking for this , lots of people think Pac is highly su****ious .

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              • #17
                Originally posted by shogunn View Post

                "Manny Pacquiao has now came up and said that he is willing to do the testing all the way up to 14 days before, my opinion is, they need to make this fight. Let's get it on. That's a compromise that should be accepted by Mayweather and all parties concerned need to understand just because Manny Pacquiao agreed to do the USADA testing and do what Shane Mosley and Floyd Mayweather did doesn't necessarily mean they're clean.

                "For whatever claims they said about Floyd being drug testing for the Mosley fight, he was tested 19 days before the fight. Let's get real here. Floyd's saying my way or the highway, well that's BS. It's got to be a compromise and there's never going 100% (accurate test) and we need to acknowledge that and I think Manny has made an effort to compromise and move to Floyd's direction and I think Manny needs to be applauded for that." -- Victor Conte

                dated MAY

                http://www.examiner.com/x-5699-Boxin...andy-from-baby

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                • #18
                  Seems a slight contradiction to accepting 14 days

                  “All anabolic steroids are similar to testosterone. If you test often enough over a sufficiently long period, you can see where the perks are. What athletes are doing now is using low-dose testosterone. The gels and the creams will clear in a day. Oral testosterone will clear in about four days. Water-based injectable testosterone will clean in about 10 days- Conte

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
                    But he still thinks Pac is highly su****ious as he quoted he also said urine testing is worthless , your always going on about why is Floyd asking for this , lots of people think Pac is highly su****ious .
                    haha oh my god, you still dont get it. He said it was acceptable with 14 days.

                    If you believe your article, then you have to believe this too.

                    You shouldnt have quoted Conte, cuz now he's making you look bad.

                    And look at the quotes, He's saying Manny could perform teh way he does without PEDS... but of course you only hear stuff you want to hear

                    tisk tisk..
                    "I would not want to single-out Manny Pacquiao because I have no direct evidence that he has used any performance enhancing drugs

                    Could you do what Manny Pacquiao does?' or 'Could other fighters do what Manny Pacquiao does and be clean?', I believe with hard-tech nutrition and training and these other available methods like this intermittent hypoxic training which has some of the benefits, the same benefits you would receive from using EPO, I believe it can be done."

                    "I don't think Manny should be singled-out until some specific information comes forward indicating that he has used performance enhancing drugs."

                    "I was contacted by people associated with Floyd Mayweather when they were having the judge arbitrate how to come up with a (drug testing) program and what I recommended and I clearly understand Manny Pacquiao is not the first athlete that has had an adverse psychological response to having their blood drawn. Asafa Powell from Jamaica for many years was the world record holder for the 100-meters, the world's fastest human, in Beijing said that he was affected by having his blood drawn before the 100-meters there. Not it may only be psychological, but it's a valid explanation. Some people don't like it and it has an effect upon them,"

                    I would like to see Floyd Mayweather agree to a 14-day drug testing that Manny Pacquiao said he would comply with and let's bring this fight."

                    "For whatever claims they said about Floyd being drug testing for the Mosley fight, he was tested 19 days before the fight. Let's get real here. Floyd's saying my way or the highway, well that's BS.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by shogunn View Post
                      haha oh my god, you still dont get it. He said it was acceptable with 14 days.

                      If you believe your article, then you have to believe this too.

                      You shouldnt have quoted Conte, cuz now he's making you look bad.

                      And look at the quotes, He's saying Manny could perform teh way he does without PEDS... but of course you only hear stuff you want to hear

                      tisk tisk..
                      You dont get it PAC IS HIGHLY SU****IOUS , thats the point behind all of this .

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