Things that p*ss you off about boxing!

[KingTito]

Horrible judging. The right fights not being made. There's more, but I don't feel like making a list.

[HyperUppercut]

I hate the fact that they made people pay for the Roy Jones vs. Bhop fight.

[BostonGuy]

I generally enjoy reading Greisman's Monday "Fighting Words" column and have not really noticed any blatant bias on his part. I think the Klitschko piece was just echoing the sentiment of numerous boxing pundits...
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Dodge Charger

[Slick_Rick]

When watching on TV they cut away from the ring card girls between rounds.

That **** is just not on

[Jatt]

shorts being too long during Sergio Martinez fights

[The Hammer]

I generally enjoy reading Greisman's Monday "Fighting Words" column and have not really noticed any blatant bias on his part. I think the Klitschko piece was just echoing the sentiment of numerous boxing pundits...

That's not why he LIED about Wlad not landing any punches in the Chagaev fight.

He's not "echoing" the sentiment, he's trying to create that opinion.

[Pac-KO]

bad decisions/robberies, too many sanctioning bodies, too many weight classes, promotors, duckers, media hype, dumbass fans

[Ace Boogie]

Bob Arum...

..............and the way he promotes black fighters

[Mr. David]

Tunney,

I'm going to tell you this just once. We know you won't get Klitschko's nut sack out of your mouth. But keep my name out of yours, since you have this unhealthy obsession with exaggerating an already incorrect summary of me, again and again and again, not because of my opinions -- which you seem to be describing with newer and wilder lies each time -- but because my opinions don't match your own wild fanhood.

1) There's a difference between having an opinion and being biased. I am not biased for or against any fighter, and the accusations you've put forth of me being biased against certain fighters, as noted above and delved into below, are somewhere between ill-informed and ill-accused. My reputation in this sport as telling it as I think it is -- not out of any bias -- has been set for some time now.

2) Here's your latest accusation:

He sucks. In a article bashing Wladimir Klitschko and trying to prove how boring he is, he said neither Chagaev nor Klitschko landed a punch until the last round.

Wlad landed MANY punches, as Chagaev's pizza faced showed in the second half of the fight. The knockdown in the second round was the first time Ruslan had ever been down, either as a pro or an amateur.

Lots of writers bash the Klitschkos, but only a few resort to such a blatant lie to discredit them. It's very unprofessional.

And besides that Griesman is BORING - he doesn't know how to create an interest, in fact he does the opposite. After reading a Griesman article about a boxer, you'll be less likely to want to watch him. It seems Griesman doesn't enjoy the sport.

Let's take this bit by bit. Here's what I said about Klitschko-Chagaev:

One would be hard pressed to find a single memorable punch Chagaev landed against Wladimir Klitschko.

There was only one memorable punch Klitschko landed on Chagaev, a right hand two minutes into the second round that put Chagaev on his posterior.

Was I doing that to trash Wladimir? No.

Instead, he wore Chagaev down physically and mentally, damaging him with the accumulated bruising of jabs and right hands, and sapping him of his will to take any further punishment.

Klitschko did so with simple but effective defense.

And:

Six of his last 11 opponents have held world titles. Almost all have been ranked in the top 10 of the various sanctioning bodies, and most actually belonged there.

Yet none seem to pose a threat to Klitschko once the bell rings.

Klitschko rarely approaches them as if that is true. Rather, be it due to patience or caution, he uses his jab to set up the right hand, breaking his opponents down until they either cannot get off the canvas or will not rise from their seats.

It is not overly entertaining. It does not need to be.

And:

Only six of Klitschko’s wins have come by decision. He looks at his record and sees that he is doing his job. Any complaints about a lack of fireworks are also because his opponents aren’t doing theirs.

A champion in a weak division is still a champion.

And:

What Wladimir Klitschko has done is win 11 straight, taking out anyone and everyone. He is the new, true heavyweight champion, taking over the designation once held by Lennox Lewis, a man with whom, like that day on the movie set, he can now see eye-to-eye .

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&opt=printable&id=20585

This is consistent with what I've long said. Klitschko is the champion of a weak division. The fights aren't very entertaining. This is consistent with what many say -- not out of bias, but because it's true. It's one of the reasons why not every Klitschko fight is on HBO these days.

I read a very well done article on another site the other day pointing out that several of boxing's great heavyweight champions were champions of weak divisions.

I don't care for historical comparisons. I've appreciated Wladimir for everything he's done since the rebuilding, and my track record, from article to article, indicates this. My track record, from article to article, still notes however that he's at the top of a heap. This is not to denigrate him so much as it is to shake my head at the lack of a good heavyweight challenger that would help build a great story.

Who's using a blatant lie to build a case? It sure ain't me.

As per building an interest, I sure as hell am doing something right, considering I've been doing this for nearly six years now and am the lead Monday columnist on the biggest boxing site and have continued to be so for some time. [EDIT: And as with everything else you wrote, it is very, very wrong to say that everything I write is negative. I don't pull punches and I'll tackle some tough themes, but I do a lot of celebrating of great fights and great fighters and great stories.]

I've been pointed out to some other stuff, more times you can't help but spread mistruths about me...

David P. Griesman is the worst. He's very negative and biased against European boxers, especially the K bros.

Suddenly I'm not just biased against Wladimir (wrong), but now I'm biased against Vitali, too (wrong), oh, and against European boxers as well (wrong). Unfounded accusations. And even if you tried to make them founded, you'd pull out more inaccurate accusations to try to prove it.

Beyond the one article of mine in which you responded to me in thread, you've pulled up my name, unprovoked, in five different threads -- and that's just on this site. I've also been pointed to at least one other site where you've done this. You're obsessed.

And here's the thing: I have an e-mail address posted at the bottom of each article. I'm happy to have discussions -- conversations, not flaming -- to handle your concerns. As I've told people in my career in journalism, which reaches beyond boxing columns to regular reporting, if ever you have concerns, get in touch with me. Either I will tell you you're right or I will talk to you about why I don't think you're correct.

Instead, you've gone on this campaign like a coward. I probably needn't have responded. What are the ramblings of one fool? As my father always told me, never argue with an idiot -- you'll never win.

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