How effective are PEDs in boxing?

[check hook]

Not at all.

But he did get caught regardless.


Just as many criminals are caught well after the fact that a crime was committed.

If someone broke into your mothers house to **** her......would you prefer to catch them before they did it (maybe you went to see her and borrow something)?? Or after the fact???

[Vasyl’s dad]

in boxing apparently nothing. You have to re-fight for your own belt. Or in the case of ODLH have a loss on your record without the decision being overturned to a NC.

That guy in your avi and sig,

went 40 fights with inferior testing.


Highly probable he was on something don't you agree?

Theres quite a few guys who have losses on their records because of the NSACs policies.

[Vasyl’s dad]

If someone broke into your mothers house to **** her......would you prefer to catch them before they did it (maybe you went to see her and borrow something)?? Or after the fact???

Before.


Whats your point?

I'm not against better drug testing if thats what you're trying to get at.

I'm against it being for a select fighter.

Make it standard across the board and I'm sure you'll see everyone happy.

[Danny VIP]

Not at all.

But he did get caught regardless.


Just as many criminals are caught well after the fact that a crime was committed.

Yea but there are methods that can be used to catch them before stuff like that happens. It's not like you can test a person and check there blood work to see if there going to commit a murder or steal something.

[Danny VIP]

Not at all.

But he did get caught regardless.


Just as many criminals are caught well after the fact that a crime was committed.

Before.


Whats your point?

I'm not against better drug testing if thats what you're trying to get at.

I'm against it being for a select fighter.

Make it standard across the board and I'm sure you'll see everyone happy.

I want it done on all fighters I could care less that they are targeting Manny.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Yea but there are methods that can be used to catch them before stuff like that happens. It's not like you can test a person and check there blood work to see if there going to commit a murder or steal something.

Again, I don't mind better testing, as long as its for every fighter. How many times do I have to say it?


Its when select fighters start being singled out for dominating performances that it becomes a problem.

[check hook]

Before.


Whats your point?

I'm not against better drug testing if thats what you're trying to get at.

I'm against it being for a select fighter.

Make it standard across the board and I'm sure you'll see everyone happy.

I'm pretty sure you can infer it.....but i will humour you.


USADA testing, being random, more frequent and testing for a wider range of substances (just better overall) is more likely to catch a cheater before the fight, than an announced and inferior form of testing.

[Vasyl’s dad]

I'm pretty sure you can infer it.....but i will humour you.


USADA testing, being random, more frequent and testing for a wider range of substances (just better overall) is more likely to catch a cheater before the fight, than an announced and inferior form of testing.

And when it becomes standard across the board for all fighters,

I'll welcome it with open arms.



You got a problem with that?

[Danny VIP]

Again, I don't mind better testing, as long as its for every fighter. How many times do I have to say it?


Its when select fighters start being singled out for dominating performances that it becomes a problem.

**** do you mean how many times do you have to say it I don't follow your posts and I wrote that about the same time as the other poster so I didn't see what you said back until I posted.

[TriPHP]

EPO increases the synthesis of red blood cells and increases the amount of oxygen carried to the muscles. This is essentially why athletes train at high altitude------> they are looking to replicate the effect synthetic EPO has on the body. Ofcourse they won't achieve the same result naturally.

It's not rocket science that the effects of EPO will be benificaial to a boxer. It increases stamina....allowing you to train harder than you could naturally on your own (the same as other steroids).

There is a reason atheltes across sporst (and boxing) use it.


Victor conte even said as far as boxing goes EPO is likely to be the most effective PED.

Thanks for the informative answer.

Regarding the PEDs allegation on Pac, I think he don't need that EPO because he was known for his great stamina even before he landed a fight in US.

And as what I've read, the urine EPO test is the only existing test to directly evaluate and prove the EPO abuse of athletes ?

Ok, I forgot to mentioned the purpose of this thread. First, I want to weigh the allegations on Pac being on peds and second, for personal education.