How effective are PEDs in boxing?

[TriPHP]

I don't know **** on PEDs, so I'm curious as to what extent the benefits of using PEDs when fighting inside the ring.

Let's take a look at some fantasy/real fights and please let me know who will win. The answer will at least give a little answer of "how effective it is?"

*with PEDs = assuming the fighter is taking the best available PEDs in the planet, following correctly the dosage and/or time (maybe taking a month, a year, 5 years, etc.)

1. Marquez (with PEDs) vs Mayweather Jr @ 147 =
2. David Diaz (with PEDs) vs Pacquiao @ 140 =
3. Jennings (with PEDs) vs Cotto @ 147 =
4. A. Gomez (with PEDs) vs Cotto @ 147 =
5. De La Hoya (with PEDs) vs Pacquiao @ 147 =
6. Malignaggi (with PEDs) vs Mayweather @ 147 =
7. Luevano (with PEDs) vs Maidana @ 140 =

Let's see if PEDs can make a super boxer.

[Vasyl’s dad]

So effective that Fernando Vargas mollywhopped Oscar De La Hoya while on them.


Too bad Fernando ended the fight early.


So effective that many feel Oscar De La Hoya won the rematch with Mosley.

[check hook]

I don't know **** on PEDs, so I'm curious as to what extent the benefits of using PEDs when fighting inside the ring.

Let's take a look at some fantasy/real fights and please let me know who will win. The answer will at least give a little answer of "how effective it is?"

*with PEDs = assuming the fighter is taking the best available PEDs in the planet, following correctly the dosage and/or time (maybe taking a month, a year, 5 years, etc.)

1. Marquez (with PEDs) vs Mayweather Jr @ 147 =
2. David Diaz (with PEDs) vs Pacquiao @ 140 =
3. Jennings (with PEDs) vs Cotto @ 147 =
4. A. Gomez (with PEDs) vs Cotto @ 147 =
5. De La Hoya (with PEDs) vs Pacquiao @ 147 =
6. Malignaggi (with PEDs) vs Mayweather @ 147 =
7. Luevano (with PEDs) vs Maidana @ 140 =

Let's see if PEDs can make a super boxer.

PED's are effective in sports. you need look no further than MLB, Track and Field and Olympic swimming.


MLB home run record holder Barry Bonds = PED user. Sosa and McGwire (second and third) both admitted PED users. Marion Jones = PED user. Female Chinese swim team of a decade ago = PED users.


the list goes on and on.......PED's are effective in sports and at enhanciong performance---->hence the name.

it's not rocket science. ******s will point out instances where boxers using PED's lost as some kind of justification that PED's are not effective. This is constipated thinking....a cop out. Superior skill level will overcome a PED enhanced foe who isn't as skilled......but the guy who wins will likely take harder shots and go through more rd to do it......it's not protecting them.


I could also cite the Robert Guerrero vs Salido (i think it was 2006) matchup where Salido beat Guerreo (and punished him a bit). Well Salido failed a post-fight test for PED's. Him failing a post fight test didn't help Guerrero who lost his title to a cheater then essentially had to re-fight for that same title that the sanctioning body vacated (prob so they could make more money off a guy who just lost hi title and got his head beat in by a cheater)

[check hook]

So effective that Fernando Vargas mollywhopped Oscar De La Hoya while on them.


Too bad Fernando ended the fight early.


So effective that many feel Oscar De La Hoya won the rematch with Mosley.

So your justification against better PED testing is that boxers who have used PED's lost to clean boxers???

[Vasyl’s dad]

So your justification against better PED testing is that boxers who have used PED's lost to clean boxers???

Yea, thats exactly what I said!

[Vasyl’s dad]

PED's are effective in sports. you need look no further than MLB, Track and Field and Olympic swimming.


MLB home run record holder Barry Bonds = PED user. Sosa and McGwire (second and third) both admitted PED users. Marion Jones = PED user. Female Chinese swim team of a decade ago = PED users.


the list goes on and on.......PED's are effective in sports and at enhanciong performance---->hence the name.

it's not rocket science. ******s will point out instances where boxers using PED's lost as some kind of justification that PED's are not effective. This is constipated thinking....a cop out. Superior skill level will overcome a PED enhanced foe who isn't as skilled......but the guy who wins will likely take harder shots and go through more rd to do it......it's not protecting them.


I could also cite the Robert Guerrero vs Salido (i think it was 2006) matchup where Salido beat Guerreo (and punished him a bit). Well Salido failed a post-fight test for PED's. Him failing a post fight test didn't help Guerrero who lost his title to a cheater then essentially had to re-fight for that same title that the sanctioning body vacated (prob so they could make more money off a guy who just lost hi title and got his head beat in by a cheater)

What method caught him?

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What method caught him?

Is it better to catch a fighter post-fight or before the fight happens???


The reason sports have rules against PED use is to protect the participants. In this particular case do you think Salido failing a post fight test protected Guerrero.

it is difficult to even argue this with you because you do not fundamentally even understand why PED's are prohibited.


Again i say you reasoning and subsequent arguments are fallacious.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Is it better to catch a fighter post-fight or before the fight happens???


The reason sports have rules against PED use is to protect the participants. In this particular case do you think Salido failing a post fight test protected Guerrero.

it is difficult to even argue this with you because you do not fundamentally even understand why PED's are prohibited.


Again i say you reasoning and subsequent arguments are fallacious.

What method caught him?

Simple question in the english language.

Why don't you answer?

Here, I'll try again.

What method caught him?

[check hook]

What method caught him?

Simple question in the english language.

Why don't you answer?

Here, I'll try again.

What method caught him?

Commission testing caught him.........i am not denying that.....why don't you try answering my questions that i have posed on this thread and the other one instead of acting like a petulant child???

[Vasyl’s dad]

Commission testing caught him.........i am not denying that.....why don't you try answering my questions that i have posed on this thread and the other one instead of acting like a petulant child???

How did that happen with such inferior methods?