Wlad Klitschko More Dominant Than Ali Ever Was

[Rick Grimes]

Wlads own trainer said this is weakest HW division he's ever seen.

[IMDAZED]

Ali was pretty dominant over club fighters too.

[TheMagicMan]

wow..the boxing iq on this site has to be below 50 these days

comparing wlads opponents to ali's is just dumb..who on wlads resume could beat a prime ken norton,fraizer,liston,foreman??

Wow your regular IQ must be more embarrassing than your avatar picture considering how no one is talking about opponents. Its all about dominating ones division. Ali was never clearly the best in his. Wlad's reign, starting in 2005 and going to the present and beyond has been far more dominant than Ali ever was. Thats the point of the topic. Your lack of reading comprehension is killing the thread. We are not discussing opponent quality. I dont want to get into a debate over who was a bigger bum, Spinks or Wepner, or how many LHW's Ali fought and got knocked down by. Thats not what we are talking about. We are talking about who was more dominant.

[The_Demon]

...........But no-where near as good

[infamous larryx]

Wow your regular IQ must be more embarrassing than your avatar picture considering how no one is talking about opponents. Its all about dominating ones division. Ali was never clearly the best in his. Wlad's reign, starting in 2005 and going to the present and beyond has been far more dominant than Ali ever was. Thats the point of the topic. Your lack of reading comprehension is killing the thread. We are not discussing opponent quality. I dont want to get into a debate over who was a bigger bum, Spinks or Wepner, or how many LHW's Ali fought and got knocked down by. Thats not what we are talking about. We are talking about who was more dominant.

first of all that aint me in my avatar genious.ali>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wlad and it aint even close

[BoxingFanFirst]

If you are not comparing opponents, then how do you draw the conclusion that Wlad is greater then Ali, or better?

[El Jesus]

Keep working on it MagicMan, maybe one day you'll start a thread that goes 10+ pages.

hes tryna go platinum

[edgarg]

Thats just a fact. You cant even argue it. Ali was never dominant, he was always struggling, always. Jones, Young, Shavers? All got robbed. How can anyone give the Shavers fight to Ali? He won rounds for being able to block punches with his face?

I mean in the early 60's spectators claimed Doug Jones clearly beat Ali, Banks knocked Ali down. Henry Cooper knocked ali out and made him ******ed. In the late 60's he was hiding out and a coward, beat guys who were shot in the gut, or fought champions like the great Brian London... Early 70's he lost to Norton and Frazier. People always say, "oh he was rusty against Norton"...HE HAD FOUGHT 13 TIMES SINCE COMING BACK. Then in the mid and late 70's he won joke decisions, i dont even care if you think he beat Norton twice, or Shavers or Young, you have to realize that Wlad hasnt had anything like this during he reign. He also lost to 6 pro fights 66% winning percentage Leon Spinks. He then lost to Holmes and Berbick in the early 80s.

So when was Ali ever even close to as dominant as Wlad. Late 60's when he was a coward?

So I dont care if you think the comp was better, it is undeniable that Wlad right now is more dominant that Ali ever was.

I've always wondered about that. There was no intention of sending Ali into combat in Vietnam. He was told that he would be giving exhibitions and talks to the troops, just .like Joe Louis was, and other prominent boxers, film stars and entertainers. It was a soft enlistment. This has always been hidden by DUMBOS and those who want to make political and racial mischief. But it happens to be fact.

Ali, however, was hepped up on all this black ****** junk, a NEW convert, so he was far more "devout" and Gung Ho that the others, he took it seriously, and became anti American.

It was just unfortunate that although he was bright and "sassy" he wasn't really very bright, when it came to common-sense, and people. He was almost illiterate.

[TheMagicMan]

If you are not comparing opponents, then how do you draw the conclusion that Wlad is greater then Ali, or better?

I never said greater, although its clear who is the greater of the two...(ill give you a hint its not the one who took illegal substances in the middle of a fight in order to beat a 185 pounder), im talking about dominance. Asserting their will over the division. Wlad asserts his will in every freakin fight, he doesnt use tricks, or win controversial decisions, he pounds his opponents into the hospital. Top contenders wont even fight him with 50/50 splits offered because he retires people. That is sheer dominance. Hey, no doubt Ali fights were more exciting, because you never knew if the out of shape, awful, old bum who was previously fighting down at the Brockton YMCA was going to go 15 rounds or knock Ali down. Thats exciting, knowing that at anytime the champion could lose because he was awful. Seeing tons of fights go to close decisions, seeing the champ get knocked down by 185 pounders. Woah, now thats a show, but thats not what Wlad does. Wlad systematically beats his opponents until they arent breathing. He dishes out punishment without taking it. Is Wlad going to be a ****** at 50? No. Cause Wlads been hit less in his career than Ali was in single fights.

[baracuda]

first of all that aint me in my avatar genious.ali>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wlad and it aint even close

LOL...who is that guy on your avy larry?.......looks like half pwill half 50 cent!