Joe Rogan (UFC Commentator) On James Toney Coming To The UFC!

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  • Kakutogi-Gumi
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    #41
    Originally posted by King22
    Do you still consider Randy top level of MMA? I mean he lost to Big Nog should have lost to Vera and lastest win is against Mark Coleman so.......

    What would it mean if James Toney beats him?
    Nothing much.

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    • NinjaMan!
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      #42
      Originally posted by pistol whip
      Wah? Show me a boxer that has won anything at the top level of Mixed Martial Arts????

      You can't just make that statement with no fact to back it up and mercer beating Tim Sylvia isn't anywhere near the top level of MMA.

      The truth is a boxer nor a Mixed martial Artist could just jump into each others sport and dominate.

      Neither of them!!!!
      Whatever Sylvia was champ 2 years before and was at least top 20. It took 50 year old Mercer a whole 8 seconds to level him. Facts are facts and If Mercer can do it then any top Prime heavyweight has a chance at any level of MMA. No MMGay fighter has any chance in top level boxing. You know I'm right but keep deluding yourself.

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      • pistol whip
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        #43
        Originally posted by Forza
        franky has a classic boxing stance and thats why hes the champ dip**** he trains boxing not muay thai. Hes a D level boxer and the champ what does that tell you? Kick rocks mma loser

        He was a Collage wrestler first jack ass and no he doesnt use a classic boxers stance. His shoulders are always squared up just like every other mixed martial artists.

        He also has a purple belt in Brazilian ju jitsu and yes he has a 5-0 Boxing record.

        The guy is well rounded thats why he beat Penn *** man research it a little bit man it's not like the guy is just all boxing he can do it all which is why he's a champ and not some mid card fighter.

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        • Boss Don
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          #44
          Originally posted by pistol whip
          yeah man I don't want you to think im hating on boxing because Im not. I love boxing and its very near and dear to my heart but even i know there are just some techniques that work in Boxing that just wont work in the UFC.
          Oh I don't think your hating man I love both sports to I wish more people did and there wasn't such a rivalry between them

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          • pistol whip
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            #45
            Originally posted by NinjaMan!
            Whatever Sylvia was champ 2 years before and was at least top 20. It took 50 year old Mercer a whole 8 seconds to level him. Facts are facts and If Mercer can do it then any top Prime heavyweight has a chance at any level of MMA. No MMGay fighter has any chance in top level boxing. You know I'm right but keep deluding yourself.

            Sylvia was champ 3 years ago and the key word was champ. Mercer was fighting him on some untelivised minor league card. Not exactly the top of the world now is it. He was also fighting Sylvia at a time when he lost his last 4 of his last 6 matches and he also weighed 45 pounds over the UFC HW limit which is 265

            And Ray Mercer was a Olyimpic gold medal winner who lost to a street fighter who had zero MMA experience who went on to lose 2 of 3 fights to D level UFC HW fighters and then got released from the UFC.

            See I can use the same argument against you!!!

            Once again neither sport is harder than the other and neither type of fighter could just jump into the other sport and dominate. If it was true it would of already of happened.

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              #46
              Originally posted by pistol whip
              Sylvia was champ 3 years ago and the key word was champ. Mercer was fighting him on some untelivised minor league card. Not exactly the top of the world now is it. He was also fighting Sylvia at a time when he lost his last 4 of his last 6 matches and he also weighed 45 pounds over the UFC HW limit which is 265

              And Ray Mercer was a Olyimpic gold medal winner who lost to a street fighter who had zero MMA experience who went on to lose 2 of 3 fights to D level UFC HW fighters and then got released from the UFC.

              See I can use the same argument against you!!!

              Once again neither sport is harder than the other and neither type of fighter could just jump into the other sport and dominate. If it was true it would of already of happened.
              No you can't. A boxer can win/has a shot In MMGay. MMGay fighters can NEVER win in Boxing period. Just admit it.

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                #47
                I'm not into MMA but Joe is right on this one. If James Toney isn't sparring wrestling guys then he's not going any where in that sport.

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                • shadeyfizzle
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by NinjaMan!
                  No you can't. A boxer can win/has a shot In MMGay. MMGay fighters can NEVER win in Boxing period. Just admit it.
                  You're a ****ing idiot. MMA is the middle ground between boxing and other combat sports. A boxer would NEVER win a wrestling match. A boxer would NEVER win a jiu-jitsu match.

                  MMA is the middle ground where you find out who's better at what.

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                  • #1Assassin
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by pistol whip
                    Do I really need to post Kimbo Murdering Mercer again??
                    that means jacks hit. mercer and kimbo had a gentlemans agreement they were just gonna stand up, and kimbo gave his word he wouldnt take him to the ground. bcuz of that mercer hadnt trained for the fight to go to the ground and more importantly he wasnt looking to defend takedowns.

                    kimbo didnt win cuz he was better, he won bcuz hes a street punk who lies and doesnt fight like a man.

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                    • Pirao
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                      #50
                      Boxing fans talking **** about MMA is as dumb as MMA fans talking **** about boxing, if you don't enjoy a sport, fine, but there's no need to bash it, doing so only makes you look dumb. Toney has just a puncher's chance in MMA, just like Mercer did. Unless he fights mostly standup guys, he'll lose a lot of fights. Randy will take him down easily and then Toney is finished.

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