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I disagree with the demands of the USADA prompted by the Mayweathers. For one thing there are NO GROUNDS to begin with. Just like in a court of law, one cannot bring someone into a lawsuit without "sufficient grounds"...
Because if Manny turns out to be "clean" (if he agrees to a testing), then what? What would be of the accusations/allegations by the Mayweathers then?
To force someone into a testing just because of their ungrounded and unfounded allegations is purely a tactic inorder to assassinate the character of Manny Pacquiao. Manny have every reason not to test if it is against his will, belief and character UNLESS THERE ARE SUFFICIENT GROUNDS.
This is not a criminal case, this is an entertainment business (made so by current boxing standards and the mercenarian stance of Mayweather that relegates this sport of pugilism into a form of commercial entertainment).
And so in this light I would side with Pacquiao.
Make a case first that there's absolute grounds for testing. Pacquiao has been of high character and in complete compliance with the NASC together with Floyd Mayweather, jr.
There were no precedents of both fighters taking illegal performance enhancing drugs. Not one iota.
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Originally posted by fabie View PostI disagree with the demands of the USADA prompted by the Mayweathers. For one thing there are NO GROUNDS to begin with. Just like in a court of law, one cannot bring someone into a lawsuit without "sufficient grounds"...
Because if Manny turns out to be "clean" (if he agrees to a testing), then what? What would be of the accusations/allegations by the Mayweathers then?
To force someone into a testing just because of their ungrounded and unfounded allegations is purely a tactic inorder to assassinate the character of Manny Pacquiao. Manny have every reason not to test if it is against his will, belief and character UNLESS THERE ARE SUFFICIENT GROUNDS.
This is not a criminal case, this is an entertainment business (made so by current boxing standards and the mercenarian stance of Mayweather that relegates this sport of pugilism into a form of commercial entertainment).
And so in this light I would side with Pacquiao.
Make a case first that there's absolute grounds for testing. Pacquiao has been of high character and in complete compliance with the NASC together with Floyd Mayweather, jr.
There were no precedents of both fighters taking illegal performance enhancing drugs. Not one iota.
the only viable defense mayweather have in real life and the legal court of law is to claim an insanity defense base on the fact the mayweather's r crackheads lmaoo
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Originally posted by fabie View PostI disagree with the demands of the USADA prompted by the Mayweathers. For one thing there are NO GROUNDS to begin with. Just like in a court of law, one cannot bring someone into a lawsuit without "sufficient grounds"...
Because if Manny turns out to be "clean" (if he agrees to a testing), then what? What would be of the accusations/allegations by the Mayweathers then?
To force someone into a testing just because of their ungrounded and unfounded allegations is purely a tactic inorder to assassinate the character of Manny Pacquiao. Manny have every reason not to test if it is against his will, belief and character UNLESS THERE ARE SUFFICIENT GROUNDS.
This is not a criminal case, this is an entertainment business (made so by current boxing standards and the mercenarian stance of Mayweather that relegates this sport of pugilism into a form of commercial entertainment).
And so in this light I would side with Pacquiao.
Make a case first that there's absolute grounds for testing. Pacquiao has been of high character and in complete compliance with the NASC together with Floyd Mayweather, jr.
There were no precedents of both fighters taking illegal performance enhancing drugs. Not one iota.
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Originally posted by shogunn View Postso youve never heard of boxer weight lifting 5 months before a fight? haha, how naive. also, floyd only tests 1 month before a fight.
those 2-3 months you mentioned he could be roiding too. The lean muscle gained wont be gone come fight night, but the trace or roids could be since he's not yearly tested.
haha who the **** are you, tygart himself, stop selling us. You act like youre making money off this. who cares about usada, we just want the fight. Manny is willing to comprimise on these lame tests that dont even catch a true roid user.
the whole point of floyd bringing up all these is to clean up the sport, but he's not even being tested year round. Until then, he just found a way out of the fight, and currenly you have no answer as to why he's not being tested right now.
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Originally posted by fabie View PostI disagree with the demands of the USADA prompted by the Mayweathers. For one thing there are NO GROUNDS to begin with. Just like in a court of law, one cannot bring someone into a lawsuit without "sufficient grounds"...
Because if Manny turns out to be "clean" (if he agrees to a testing), then what? What would be of the accusations/allegations by the Mayweathers then?
To force someone into a testing just because of their ungrounded and unfounded allegations is purely a tactic inorder to assassinate the character of Manny Pacquiao. Manny have every reason not to test if it is against his will, belief and character UNLESS THERE ARE SUFFICIENT GROUNDS.
This is not a criminal case, this is an entertainment business (made so by current boxing standards and the mercenarian stance of Mayweather that relegates this sport of pugilism into a form of commercial entertainment).
And so in this light I would side with Pacquiao.
Make a case first that there's absolute grounds for testing. Pacquiao has been of high character and in complete compliance with the NASC together with Floyd Mayweather, jr.
There were no precedents of both fighters taking illegal performance enhancing drugs. Not one iota.
everything you typed was nonesense
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I've been saying it for months, it's not up to Floyd, it's up the USADA to accept Manny's request. There you have it, *******s.
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Originally posted by feefiflofum View Postthis is exactly what theyre gonna arque in court... and GBP's counter-case is pac's head got "BIGGER", that maybe alright on forums when u can voice ur opinion and say wtf u want but when ur in a position of high authority as promoters/boxing experts and u claim such nonsense such as a steroids give u a "BIG HEAD".. which doesnt actually.. u r totally ****ed
the only viable defense mayweather have in real life and the legal court of law is to claim an insanity defense base on the fact the mayweather's r crackheads lmaoo
It is sad to see it this way because it is marring the sport of pugilism.
We see irrelevant banter about Manny's fear against blood issuance - nothing to do with boxing, if at all. The main issue is whether both fighters would fight.
That is all I care about.
To see the anti-thesis of each other in terms of style. The crafty boxer worthy of the scientific skills of an Ali and Leonard versus the phenomenal punching machine in ways and angles only limited by our minds. Lefty vs Righty...and on and on.
This fight must happen but both sides HAVE TO AGREE and should start with a middle ground.
• Would they want to really fight?
If yes, then the rest should break down relatively easier. The game is already halfway made if they sincerely wants to fight.
As for the purse, I would say, either the WINNER TAKES ALL or 70/30 to the winner.
Let's bring back respectability towards the sport of boxing.
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