The Truth About Why So Many Americans Hate The Klitschko's...

[Michael Hall]

why cause the klitschkos are dominating the division, that americans come off that it is weak...........

i bet when there is an american champ, the division will suddenly be good....

the heavyweight division ****** while lewis was the champ as well. it was slightly better than this current crop of dog sh.it.

[Michael Hall]

didn't wladmir get knocked out in brutal fashion by corrie "apartheid" sanders? did wladmir avenge that loss? nope. instead he sent his big brother to fight for him and big bro was nearly destroyed as well.

sorry but corrie sanders couldn't defeat a prime hasim rahman.

[Tampatrader0468]

No we don't like them anymore because they are cleaning up the division in a boring way... American's loved Vitali after the Lewis fight because he was exciting to watch and displayed heart in that fight. I still like them both, but it takes a true boxing fan to appreciate what they do... They are not the best heavyweights to do it though, no way.

[knn]

didn't wladmir get knocked out in brutal fashion by corrie "apartheid" sanders? did wladmir avenge that loss? nope.

There it appears again... out of nowhere... the "ATGs avenge their losses"-myth.

[pelonxsoldier28]

You don't want to tell me that USA is now 300+ million people (twice the number than in Ali's times) and there is not 1 decent heavyweight.

It's so obvious that the opposite is true: That however superhuman an American boxer is he will be beaten by the Klitschkos. The conclusion is also obvious: The past heavyweights were only great because they weren't exposed to Eastern-Europeans.

Yea that's what I'm telling you, and the same with europe, that's what everyone's been telling you, but it don't sink into your head for some reason.Oh they were'nt exposed to eastern europeans huh, then why did that bum Corrie Sanders do what he did to Wlad? You have alot of excuses.

[pelonxsoldier28]

You're a ****ing idiot.




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Oh I'm the idiot because I don't agree with you? Stop crying

[Vadrigar.]

If I were you I would not talk about being exposed about anything. You are the guy who did not know that back in Ali's day a 200+ lbs HW could fight someone who was 177lbs for the HW championship, as Ali has done many times. Ali fought dozens of guys who were 177-185lbs when he was a full-blown HW at 200+, go look it up on box rec, because that was news to you in a previous thread. You also said that Ali had the "protection of god" with his win over Cleveland Williams...LOL That Cleveland Williams was shot in the stomach with a .375 the year before, had nerve damage that caused his leg to atrophy, had 10 feet of his intestine taken out, a had a failed kidney, and he had not fought as a result for that entire year. He fought Ali in that condition.

Don't forget that 60% of Ali's wins came against smaller men than himself and that he managed only a 60% KO ratio. His jaw was broken by a 210lbs Ken Norton and one of the "many" HOFs fighters that US historians are so proud of on his record was a light HW Bob Foster, who weighed in at a whopping 180lbs against Ali's 220lbs. I mean if that does not speak GOAT, I don't know what else will.

Don't forget, that Ali was also such a big defensive genius that his favortie tactic was to lay against the ropes and let his opponents wear themselves out by punching him in the face repeatedly. As a result, today Ali is in diapers and a wheel-chair, not even able to speak without drooling all over himself. I feel sorry for the man and I am not laughing at anyone with Parkinsons but most attribute it to him taking so much punishment in his career. If he was such a defensive genius he wouldn't had to rely on that to win fights, that's all I am saying.

Let's give Ali his due - great entertainer, based on the fighters he fought at that time, he is definately an ATG. But H2H, Lewis, both Klitschkos and a host of other modern HWs would have destroyed Ali in a fantasy time-machine battle.

The weight limit of the heavyweights has changed as have the size of its fighters in the division.

it was RARE to see a 6'7 250lb heavyweight in the 50's and 60's. This is why that specific weight range is a heavyweight class.

But to use a current definition (which has no authority) and try and superimpose it on an era in which only 1% of fighters matched the current definition is just plain absurdity.


clithuggers are in denial over some unarguable facts (like that prior to the moment the CW division was created, there was no such thing as a CW fighter, hence, if you were fighting weighing 176 lbs, you were a HW, and you still are to this day)
This proves that Ali was fighting in a legitimate heavyweight division.

If we folly the clithuggers flawed logic Marciano, Tunney, Dempsey, Charles, Walcott, Johnson were never HW champions.

Just one word is enough to shatter the clithuggers arguments: CONTEXT

Weight doesn't mean ****. I am assuming you've heard of tommy hearns right?

Thomas hearns would clean his clock.



All he needs is one big leveraged right hand to put vlad to sleep.


Transition One: Hearns lands a stiff southpaw jab (LoL):



Transition Two: As soon as Vlad takes the count Hearns finishes up with a big leveraged right hand:



Just like a rotting corpse

[knn]

It was RARE to see a 6'7 250lb heavyweight in the 50's and 60's.
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Why do you spam every thread with the same post?

This post is completely offtopic here.

Just one word is enough to shatter the clithuggers arguments: CONTEXT

^^^ This is what comes out when MmuhammadM tries to cover up that he was a failure at school. Well at least one thing you have in common with Clay.

But, hey, at least my attention for 1 second was diverted away from the toilet paper roll on your head:


**MmuhammadM's avatar in case he deletes it))

[Vadrigar.]

Why do you spam every thread with the same post?

This post is completely offtopic here.

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QUak, Quak, argumnet ducked

[ChiTown2Diego]

I'm american. I don't hate the klitschkos