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Why i believe Pac is on PED's.
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Originally posted by brick wall View Postaccording to *****s pac beat old, shot, weight drained and past his prime fighters as he went up in weight...well, that's as far as criticizing his accomplishments as fighter of course. but when the topic is about peds, those same unimpressive wins becomes extraordinary and a cause of concern for possible peds use.
Just the world we live in now.
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Originally posted by tyson View PostAlthough what you say here is true, you're leaving out a few factors.
Pacman's balance and punching technique has greatly improved under Roach's guidance. The secret to Pacman's power lies in leverage and speed, which he has more or less kept going up through the weight classes.
Remember that the formula for power is mass x acceleration. Keeping the same speed while increasing mass (weight), will increase your punching power. Gaining weight will also increase the body's ability to sustain/absorb punishment.
Strengthening your neck and shoulder area will increase your ability to absorb a blow on the physical level. I believe that a great deal of one's ability to absorb punches is mental, that you decide to not allow yourself to get knocked out.
At least that's what George Chuvalo said, and he should know
Another factor has more to do with a lack of weight draining than use of drugs when it comes to the "resurgence" of Pacquiao's physicality, I think.
Being 1% water drained equals to about 10% reduction in physical endurance and performance...
Which again is why Cotto looked dead slow and very vulnerable against Pacman.
I don't think Floyd has slowed down considerably due to going up. I think he has changed his style to suit the slower, more powerful foes he's facing, as well as a reflection of the change in personality as he grows older. More safety-minded, more calculated and clinical, but no less effective due to his extraordinarily good timing- which has always been his "key", coupled with his great vision.
I don't think Pac has been tested enough as a welterweight to declare his chin or power to be better or worse. Some of his welterweight opponents were weightdrained as hell (Oscar and Cotto) and one just refused to hit him.
Floyd would test those areas, and I think Floyd would be too strong and too accurate for Pacquiao.
Those reasons are ******, indeed.
I think Pacman isn't very very interested in fighting Floyd. More so than I think he is juicing.
Perhaps you are right. Maybe the public is being kind because it's the pacman. It's certainly a factor that the demands comes from Floyd, which every single reasonable human being just cannot stand outside the ring.
The way I see it, there are two possibilities here;
Either Pacman is roiding, or he is very special. We can easily find out, but Pac is refusing.
I think it might be one out of two reasons;
Either Pac doesn't really wanna fight floyd.
Or he is jucing...
good points...........see this is what i was hopng for.....this makes me think harder about my opinions.
Thakns.
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Originally posted by reedickyaluss View PostI think IMDAZED is on something... who can possibly debate this BS day in and out all day long?
Wtf are you on, son?Originally posted by Bee Keepz View PostYou just got put on ignore.
Originally posted by reedickyaluss View PostHow did that work out for you?Originally posted by Chups View PostYou can't.
True story.
Last edited by check hook; 06-08-2010, 08:19 PM.
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Originally posted by Vito Corleone View PostAccording to the Male Nurses, Floyd is a cherrypicking, cowardly ***** with feather-fists and a glass jaw. Yet, they want - no, NEED - Pac to fight him.
Just the world we live in now.
I just hope Fraud would disappear to put a stop to this OST garbage. All fights have been happening without it. Fans are okay with it, including *****s.
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Originally posted by ace2ace234 View Postu didnt answer have u ever had to make weight? do u know how weak it makes you,pac is at his full strenth lately where as he was'nt before...so by ur response ur answer to both questions is no i give up
You must understand the difference. It was a clown on here talking to me about cotto a week ago, and he couldnt grasp teh samething. WATER WEIGHT AND MUSCLE WEIGHT OR FAT ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
YOU CANT PUT ON 12 POUNDS OF FAT IN 2 DAYS, BUT YOU CAN REHYDRATE, BUT PAC IS ONCE AGAIN LEAN!!!
LEAN AND MUSCULAR, AND THAT HEAD IS BIG AS HELL.
AND FOR THE RECORD, I have had to make weight before, and it was totally different as PAC IS LEAN AND MUSCULAR. I WOULD BE WEAK WHILE MAKING WEIGHT, BUT I LOOKED LEAN AND MUSCULAR, BUT I WOULD REHYDRATE.
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My reasons Pac is NOT on PEDs and is simply a man whose too good for his own good. FACT: He was struggling to make weight before he fought JMM the 2nd time. Could that be why he was rocked by JMM BUT never dropped..? What was his fight weight for the last 3 years? All within 5lbs of each other...When you take PEDs or any steroid, you are PHYSICALLY strong. You can push around people easier and move them where you want them. In all of Pac's WW fights, he's never pushed or moved around his opponent. Infact it's been the complete opposite. Cotto at times turned Pac around like a ragdoll and Hatton was able to hold onto Pac and bear hug him with force many a times. This is one of the biggest reasons and a former PED user my boss at work says. When your on PEDs, you can physically move people around like they are nothing. Pac shows no signs of this whatso ever. As for him hurting guys? The man is one of the greatest offensive fighters that ever lived. I'm sure he knows how to throw a punch...
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