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  • #71
    Originally posted by nachomas4 View Post
    i hear what you're saying but lets not overlook the fact that hes probably on peds the biggest factor of them all, and i dont want to hear how do i know that because i dont, however, all the signs point to it; his accomplishments since moving up, when it was clear he was on the downside of his career although still very good after the last fight with Marquez. Also, the way he took Cotto's punches with disregard, the size of his head is a clear indication and it continues to grow as i write, his ripped body, punching power, the ability to take a great punch and most of all his refusal to test with no limit on the cut off days. And it is known that if peds are done the right way and he comes off the cycle gradually he wont test positive
    yeah, but clearly you are from the school of "guilty until proven innocent"...
    records show pac has been consistently been close to 140s on fight night on his move up from LW to WW... people act like he went from 106 to 147 overnight. LOL. also, he is STRUGGLING to make WW limit... the man is eating 5-9 huge meals a day just to maintain. dont you think weight gain & age can play a factor with how "big" your head looks? even floyd looks different from his lightweight days. just playing devils advocate here...

    there was NO WAY manny was on the downside of his career after jmm... he was still on the verge of stardom & was aiming at moving up... momentum was all his, how would that be a downside??? especially with the kind of performances he had after jmm. gatti, margs, b-hop all had superb chins... why is it so farfetched that manny can take a punch??? all the "proof" alarmists have is absurd... its all speculation. the ONLY reason to question manny is his refusal to take the tests. but dont you think he can easily cycle off and take the test for a tune-up??? IMO, he shouldve taken USADA against clottey to prove he was clean... and proof his refusal is based off of his disdain for floyd...

    like i said, until he is proven guilty (obviously the spotlight is on him now), i refuse to make accusations based off of assumptions. at the moment, there is no SOLID evidence. no personal accounts... no leaked info... no records.... NOTHING. remember, all these alarmists claiming pac is on steroids also claimed khan & vanes was on it as well... after their recent fights, i dont hear anything being brought up on khan & vanes anymore....

    even shane had a paper trail that lead to BALCO.

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    • #72
      Don't do it Miguel. Miguel needs to stay away from punchers, IMO.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by COACH-WEBB View Post
        Don't do it Miguel. Miguel needs to stay away from punchers, IMO.
        cotto earned 2M for the foreman fight. What did he earn with his pacquiao match, like 10M? He can earn 10M, even more, with a Pacquiao rematch. That's more than enough incentive to face Pacquiao again, win or lose.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by street bully View Post
          He means he was runnign from pacquiao and still got chased down and KOed, had he traded he would have been asleep in 8.
          i agree, although i'm a cotto fan, he had no choice but to run or get stopped, eventhough i strongly believe pac has been on peds since moving up to fight David Diaz and that has been his best weapon thus far

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          • #75
            Do not want!

            As a fan of both fighters, and a fan of boxing, this is a typical ****** fight that happens in boxing. What's the point? Its typical boxing slimey promoters. This fight would make Arum money, Pac would do what he did the 1st time. Cotto would is a warrior, but the payday sure wouldn't hurt either is probably what he's thinking. So dumb.

            Pac vs. Mayweather or both guys need to retire.

            Have Cotto fight Margherito again.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by waxfondler View Post
              yeah, but clearly you are from the school of "guilty until proven innocent"...
              records show pac has been consistently been close to 140s on fight night on his move up from LW to WW... people act like he went from 106 to 147 overnight. LOL. also, he is STRUGGLING to make WW limit... the man is eating 5-9 huge meals a day just to maintain. dont you think weight gain & age can play a factor with how "big" your head looks? even floyd looks different from his lightweight days. just playing devils advocate here...

              there was NO WAY manny was on the downside of his career after jmm... he was still on the verge of stardom & was aiming at moving up... momentum was all his, how would that be a downside??? especially with the kind of performances he had after jmm. gatti, margs, b-hop all had superb chins... why is it so farfetched that manny can take a punch??? all the "proof" alarmists have is absurd... its all speculation. the ONLY reason to question manny is his refusal to take the tests. but dont you think he can easily cycle off and take the test for a tune-up??? IMO, he shouldve taken USADA against clottey to prove he was clean... and proof his refusal is based off of his disdain for floyd...

              like i said, until he is proven guilty (obviously the spotlight is on him now), i refuse to make accusations based off of assumptions. at the moment, there is no SOLID evidence. no personal accounts... no leaked info... no records.... NOTHING. remember, all these alarmists claiming pac is on steroids also claimed khan & vanes was on it as well... after their recent fights, i dont hear anything being brought up on khan & vanes anymore....

              even shane had a paper trail that lead to BALCO.
              i didn't say pac was done, but at the top of his peak looking down not up and he's made it look easier than most who've done it before, even Duran had his troubles ad Pac ain't no Duran. if you search on youtube for Teddy Atlas, he said in a video that although he does not know if its true his sources are usually very legit and there was word the the people for Pac sent
              Floyd's people 2 emails, the first saying what happens should pac test positive for peds and the second saying that if pac does in fact tests positive for peds can they keep it quiet for the sake of boxing. and you must agree that all this is coming from big names within the sport and nut just fans, and for the record i was a fan who loved pacs style but i started suspecting on my own and then with all the rumblings i feel somewhat different. and the worse thing is that if it ever does come out it'll be 10 years downh the road and it would be meaningless

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              • #77
                Originally posted by nachomas4 View Post
                i agree, although i'm a cotto fan, he had no choice but to run or get stopped, eventhough i strongly believe pac has been on peds since moving up to fight David Diaz and that has been his best weapon thus far
                WHOA nacho!!! LOL. since david diaz???? really?? enlighten me sir.
                what makes you "strongly" believe this?

                most people ripped on manny for fighting diaz... people claim manny ducked tougher fights @ LW to fight an "easy" diaz...

                from my memory, diaz crumbled from the pressure & speed... its not like manny tossed diaz around like a ragdoll, diaz was solid... just outclassed.

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                • #78
                  Unless Cotto comes in at 154 lb and Pac at 147 lb during weighin, this fight is a Mismatch~~~


                  Pac simply on another level!!!

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by luigimangaya View Post
                    Come On Miguel. You fought the hardest fight of your career in Pacquiao. Please say NO to it. You can fight up and coming welterweights on their prime and sure you'll still give them a run for their money. But no. Not Manny. Too strong, too fast. Anyways, congratulations on your win. =)
                    LOL, as if Cotto will read it...

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by nachomas4 View Post
                      i didn't say pac was done, but at the top of his peak looking down not up and he's made it look easier than most who've done it before, even Duran had his troubles ad Pac ain't no Duran. if you search on youtube for Teddy Atlas, he said in a video that although he does not know if its true his sources are usually very legit and there was word the the people for Pac sent
                      Floyd's people 2 emails, the first saying what happens should pac test positive for peds and the second saying that if pac does in fact tests positive for peds can they keep it quiet for the sake of boxing. and you must agree that all this is coming from big names within the sport and nut just fans, and for the record i was a fan who loved pacs style but i started suspecting on my own and then with all the rumblings i feel somewhat different. and the worse thing is that if it ever does come out it'll be 10 years downh the road and it would be meaningless
                      i totally see your point, and all those "reports" raised my eyebrows as well... but until something solid is released, i cant see myself jumping the gun.... but you are completely right, 10 yrs from now would be worthless... but his reputation and how he is placed in history would be revised... so there will be a penalty if there is guilt. for the sake of boxing, im hoping this doesnt get too scandalous. LOL

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