A Cuban Discipline Crisis?

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  • Frighteous
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    #11
    what a useless post. i should have never read all that useless bullshat

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    • check hook
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      #12
      Thanks



      good read.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Frighteous
        what a useless post. i should have never read all that useless bullshat


        ^^^


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        • Evil Abed
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          #14
          Originally posted by Frighteous
          what a useless post. i should have never read all that useless bullshat
          Though you don't know it this article has made you smarter......I mean it had to.

          You probably can't get much dumber.

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          • BadNewz
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            #15
            Originally posted by Young Man
            I read the first post, hopefully Guillermo can get things together, his skill and talent would be a big waste if he doesn't get better management.

            I read Roach wasn't giving him enough attention, so he left. Can anyone confirm if that was a BS article?
            Why would anybody ever trust anything Freddie Roach says?

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            • krispy kreme
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              #16
              Originally posted by BadNewz
              Why would anybody ever trust anything Freddie Roach says?
              I'm talking about what Guillermo said, not Roach.

              Originally posted by thephantom5
              It would seem so.
              Thanks.

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              • killacash
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                #17
                Originally posted by thephantom5
                "A lot of Cuban fighters are held more hostage in the United States than they are in Cuba," he states. "And I think the factors that are at play are things like having a full refrigerator- they all gain 15 pounds as soon as they seemingly touch American soil. In the case of Rigondeaux, he was going to be the exception. And then, he basically had a sparring session just before the April 10th fight and he was beat up by a 15-year-old."
                Rigondeaux getting his ass kicked in sparring already?

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                • killacash
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by killacash
                  Rigondeaux getting his ass kicked in sparring already?
                  anyone care to clarify this?

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                  • Heru
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by killacash
                    anyone care to clarify this?
                    "And then, he basically had a sparring session just before the April 10th fight and he was beat up by a 15-year-old."

                    You have 2 different sources (maybe 3) saying he got his ass kicked by a 15 year old amateur before the April 10th fight.

                    Except for the beat down he caught against the amateur, the details in this article are really no surprise. Cuban boxers get fat and lazy because of a lot of different factors, nothing to new.

                    Good article though and it's funny how the DeCubas says he's cool with Roach and then Roach tells it how it is. The Cuban faction is letting all these boxers **** themselves up.

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                    • Mikhnienko
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                      #20
                      I have thought about this myself before about Cuban fighters. Currently Solis is a great example.

                      One thing that i can't overlook though is they seem to use the cultural differences coming from a communist country and living in the US away from their home as an excuse for their lack of discipline.

                      When comparing this to Eastern European fighters from former Soviet countries there doesn't seem to be the same discipline epidemic with them.

                      In terms of diaspora populations i'm sure that Cuban fighters have a much bigger sense of community and cultural familiarity than any Eastern European fighter could find anywhere in the US. So the whole homesick argument, while legitimate, doesn't fully explain or excuse how prevelant this is among Cuban fighters.

                      ???????? any thoughts
                      Last edited by Mikhnienko; 07-10-2010, 04:46 PM.

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