Seems to me that Floyd Fans...

[V.WEBB]

Sometimes you gotta know when to ingore the ******s mate.

Right. I agree.

[[ DUBBZZ ]]

It literally kills me how Pac fans think that in business deals don't EVER expire.

So if Floyd was cool with 14 days, you wouldn't? Its like ya'll are hoping this fight don't get made. Just so Floyd looks like he has the upper hand and Pac looks ******? Sad.

[Bhopreign]

But a loss for Pac is not nearly as devastating as a loss for Floyd. Legacy-wise, he's already chasing Pac. His main argument at greatness is the fact that he's never lost, without that, he's just anther great fighter with alot of money and questionable resume. His whole identity is wrapped around being undefeated

You're right, Pac is not the favorite. That's why I think he wants this fight, he's not scared of losing, at least not as much as Floyd. Pac is supposed to lose according to the experts. Pac really has nothing to lose (except the fight). He's already loss to no name scrubs so Losing to Floyd Mayweather is nothing to be ashamed of. Plus, this will be the fattest payday of his career.

True, alot of Pac fans were making excuses for Pac not accepting the OST, but honestly, excuses were being thrown around from both sides.

You dont get extraordinary over the years in boxing, this sport is like a car, if anything youre supposed to depreciate over time. If Pac wasnt scared of losing he would do no cutoff date, I could go further and say if he wasnt scared of losing he wouldnt be juicing in the first place, but I wont speculate. Either way, we know how much the Morales loss hurt him, he expressed it over and over and seemingly in his mind he's vowed to never lose again, by any means necessary.

[[ DUBBZZ ]]

Ok, then why are you worrying about it in the first place?

All I'm wondering is why ya'll are shooting down Pac's attempt to make this fight happen when Floyd himself hasn't even shot it down.

[V.WEBB]

So if Floyd was cool with 14 days, you wouldn't? Its like ya'll are hoping this fight don't get made. Just so Floyd looks like he has the upper hand and Pac looks ******? Sad.

Dude, I was for testing ALL the way up until the fight, because I don't know WHY a compromise or a cut off would be needed for a drug test. I was good with the 14 days because Manny asked for a whole month with out testing. So 14 is about HALF of that, which in my opinion was MORE than fair. And please, for the last time, don't tell me about what I want to happen. I've been wanting this fight, when Pac fans were HAPPY that Manny didn't "bow down to Fraud Gayweather."

[[ DUBBZZ ]]

You dont get extraordinary over the years in boxing, this sport is like a car, if anything youre supposed to depreciate over time. If Pac wasnt scared of losing he would do no cutoff date, I could go further and say if he wasnt scared of losing he wouldnt be juicing in the first place, but I wont speculate. Either way, we know how much the Morales loss hurt him, he expressed it over and over and seemingly in his mind he's vowed to never lose again, by any means necessary.

That's another thing, before Sr's accusations, Pac was a fraud, fighting old,weight drained, past prime fighters. Afterwards, he's extraordinary. I guess its just easier to make one all inclusive excuse instead of trying to discredit each individual win.

[Ray*]

But a loss for Pac is not nearly as devastating as a loss for Floyd. Legacy-wise, he's already chasing Pac. His main argument at greatness is the fact that he's never lost, without that, he's just anther great fighter with alot of money and questionable resume. His whole identity is wrapped around being undefeated

You're right, Pac is not the favorite. That's why I think he wants this fight, he's not scared of losing, at least not as much as Floyd. Pac is supposed to lose according to the experts. Pac really has nothing to lose (except the fight). He's already loss to no name scrubs so Losing to Floyd Mayweather is nothing to be ashamed of. Plus, this will be the fattest payday of his career.

True, alot of Pac fans were making excuses for Pac not accepting the OST, but honestly, excuses were being thrown around from both sides.

And the more reason why we need to wait and see what happens in negotiation, Fact is Team Pacquiao talk soooo much BS to the media even when told not to, Fact is Team Pacquiao have different people saying different thing to different part of the media which is not helping anyone.

I havent seen anyone from Team Mayweather say anything, They have never negotiate through the media until the fight was going to fall apart last year, its all about patience but fact is the fight didnt happen last time because Team Pacquiao werent ready yet, Now that they are ready we shall see how negotiation goes this time around.

[V.WEBB]

All I'm wondering is why ya'll are shooting down Pac's attempt to make this fight happen when Floyd himself hasn't even shot it down.

Where was this "spirit" when Floyd offered the 14 days before? And Floyd hasn't shot it down? Do your research, he shot it down in...get this...February. Manny and Arum aren't ******, they KNOW that deal is off the table, believe that.

[skipperman]

Just want Floyd to win the negotiation game rather then getting the fight done.

Now that Pac accepted the 14 day cutoff, now ya'll are talking about how the deal is off the table. That Floyd should get the bigger split. Who the **** cares!?!?! It seems like deep down that Floyd fans are scared that their boy is gonna lose. Face it, dude is deathly afraid of losing to anyone. If there's even the slightest chance of losing a fight, he ain't taking it. Its pretty obvious. I don't think Pac gives a **** about losing, at least not as much as Floyd.

- His legacy is cemented,
- He's loss before to scrubs, so a loss to Floyd would actually be an upgrade.
- He's got one more fight in him and he's gonna collect the fattest check of his career.
- He knows that Floyd can't hurt him.
- He's going on to bigger and better things after boxing

A loss for Floyd would be devasting because being undefeated is his only claim to greatness, without that, he's got nothing.

Nothing but the truth!!!

[Bhopreign]

That's another thing, before Sr's accusations, Pac was a fraud, fighting old,weight drained, past prime fighters. Afterwards, he's extraordinary. I guess its just easier to make one all inclusive excuse instead of trying to discredit each individual win.

Name another fighter constantly going up in weight talking about how his POWER will get the job done for him, Ive never heard a fighter say that other than Pac, they will say speed, movement, whatever, never power, its totally backwards as far as boxing goes. You didnt have this same drive and determination when 14 days was on the table at one time and Pac was still asking for a month, now youre a whole new man, cong****.