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Originally posted by jantzen212003 View PostI disagree. pbf nor pacq cut weight like that. pacq has a hard time staying heavy. And pbf is making the demand so *** how he will feel when they come knocking. No one needs to know when they wont be tested. Look at each sport closely and u will find it riddled with cheaters. This has to stop now. Especially in an already struggling sport.
I am looking at the sport as a whole not just these two divas
you want to continue on with just them two fine by me
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Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Postlike i said i don't give a **** about pac's teams reasons for the cutoff.
my whole point is for the alleged purpose of the testing (preventing and catching ped use) a 14 day cutoff is enough.
do random testing the 1st 6 weeks of camp.
even do one blood testing right at the cutoff date. schedule it to make sure there is no longer than 14 days in between blood tests.
6 weeks of random blood and urine testing , 1 blood and urine test 14 days out , 1 blood and urine test right after the fight.
that's enough.
to say it isn't is just ridiculous.
We all know where you stand on this issue. NOW 14 days is cool after pacq agrees, ur fos and I just want to make it clear to anyone who reads this thread. For those who care enough you can easily search any posters history and see how they flip flop.
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Originally posted by IMDAZED View PostHow can a fighter knowing when he will and won't be tested be sufficient?
the point is not to be random.
being random is just a way to help the testing procedures since you can't test everyday.
do the random testing for 6 weeks.
then make sure you test 2 weeks out and fight night.
that is more done enough.
random testing doesn't mean superior testing.
random testing is a way to aid in catching someone in times when there is possibly a long time in between tests.
example: if you only do 3 tests in a space of the 8 weeks , random testing helps because the people being tested won't know when they are being tested.
but in a space of a short time period , where you ensure they get tested right before and right after , there is really no need for random testing.
people on here think the word RANDOM means it's a superior form of testing.
it's not. it just helps with the testing cover a longer period of time with less tests.
if you really want to do the most stringent type of testing do a schedule test every few days or every week.
even if it's "scheduled" (which for some on here seem to think is some form of inferior type of testins) , if you do scheduled tests every other day or every week , it's better than 3-4 random tests in 6 weeks.
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Originally posted by jantzen212003 View PostI disagree. pbf nor pacq cut weight like that. pacq has a hard time staying heavy. And pbf is making the demand so *** how he will feel when they come knocking. No one needs to know when they wont be tested. Look at each sport closely and u will find it riddled with cheaters. This has to stop now. Especially in an already struggling sport.
Mosley has never really been someone to have issue making weight correct?
I mean for the most part he went back down to 147 because of the big fights and did so fairly easy.
so if a guy who really has no issues cutting weight, does have issues giving urine samples because he is indeed dry, then shouldn't we take this into account when we are thinking about changing the testing process?
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Originally posted by Eaner0919 View Postagain
I am looking at the sport as a whole not just these two divas
you want to continue on with just them two fine by me
You cant leave a cheater any room. They will take it.
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Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Postthat point of drug testing is to test them enough to prevent and to catch ped use.
the point is not to be random.
being random is just a way to help the testing procedures since you can't test everyday.
do the random testing for 6 weeks.
then make sure you test 2 weeks out and fight night.
that is more done enough.
random testing doesn't mean superior testing.
random testing is a way to aid in catching someone in times when there is possibly a long time in between tests.
example: if you only do 3 tests in a space of the 8 weeks , random testing helps because the people being tested won't know when they are being tested.
but in a space of a short time period , where you ensure they get tested right before and right after , there is really no need for random testing.
people on here think the word RANDOM means it's a superior form of testing.
it's not. it just helps with the testing cover a longer period of time with less tests.
if you really want to do the most stringent type of testing do a schedule test every few days or every week.
even if it's "scheduled" (which for some on here seem to think is some form of inferior type of testins) , if you do scheduled tests every other day or every week , it's better than 3-4 random tests in 6 weeks.
The point of the testing is to DETER cheating.
The reason its random is to catch people off guard and have the threat of USADA knocking on your door. If USADA can pop up anytime and you DONT know. There wont be much room to cheat unless the fighters are just ******.
If you know when the tests are you can pass them.
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Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Postthat point of drug testing is to test them enough to prevent and to catch ped use.
the point is not to be random.
being random is just a way to help the testing procedures since you can't test everyday.
do the random testing for 6 weeks.
then make sure you test 2 weeks out and fight night.
that is more done enough.
random testing doesn't mean superior testing.
random testing is a way to aid in catching someone in times when there is possibly a long time in between tests.
example: if you only do 3 tests in a space of the 8 weeks , random testing helps because the people being tested won't know when they are being tested.
but in a space of a short time period , where you ensure they get tested right before and right after , there is really no need for random testing.
people on here think the word RANDOM means it's a superior form of testing.
it's not. it just helps with the testing cover a longer period of time with less tests.
if you really want to do the most stringent type of testing do a schedule test every few days or every week.
even if it's "scheduled" (which for some on here seem to think is some form of inferior type of testins) , if you do scheduled tests every other day or every week , it's better than 3-4 random tests in 6 weeks.
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Originally posted by jantzen212003 View PostNo! To say it is is really ignorant.
We all know where you stand on this issue. NOW 14 days is cool after pacq agrees, ur fos and I just want to make it clear to anyone who reads this thread. For those who care enough you can easily search any posters history and see how they flip flop.
i don't flip flop.
i never thought any of these ****** tests were needed.
i thought 1 at the start of camp , 1 in the middle of camp and 1 after the fight is enough.
if i thought that was enough , wouldn't random testing for 6 weeks then 1 2 weeks before the fight and 1 after the fight ALSO BE ENOUGH?
my position is the same.
you guys are the idiots who changed yours.
most of you ****s thought 14 days was enough a few months ago. now it's not enough.
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