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  • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
    Using that logic, then nothing has changed. Manny's 14 day proposal doesn't exist either. And he still gets blood sickness
    Right.

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    • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
      Sure. Unless you want to admit that this is a new offer from Pac with nothing else on the table. Why else would he want 14 days when he knows Floyd said that deal is off the table?
      Good question that probably won't get answered.

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      • Originally posted by Tamis_Siensya View Post
        Coz he said it at the media and not on the negotiating table?
        okay so by your same logic isn't Manny doing the same?

        I mean this was leaked to the media and didn't Bob say that this negotiation should be done without the media's involvement yet here we are debating words from Arum and Manny's side yet again?

        can't have it both way to suit your fighter bro

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        • Originally posted by COACH-WEBB View Post
          Wow, what a thread. Why a new deal? Um...because the last one didn't work.

          The last one was balked at.

          The last one was rejected.

          The last one was trying to "weaken" Manny by offering 14 days.
          If this was the reason for the new deal, then the new deal which is "no cut-off" doesnt make any sense.

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          • Originally posted by COACH-WEBB View Post
            Good question that probably won't get answered.
            simplest way to look at this

            Manny's new starting point: 14 days is fine

            Mayweather's new starting point: up to the day testing

            the end

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            • Originally posted by Mr. Mandingo View Post
              If this was the reason for the new deal, then the new deal which is "no cut-off" doesnt make any sense.
              It makes plenty actually, especially in light of Manny's excus...I mean reasons. Think about it.

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              • Sometimes I wish Mayweather would face Martinez. This would then end all of this.

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                • "yer,but Floyd said this and Floyd said that" Are you fudgepackers for real?

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                  • Originally posted by Rudie Cant Fail View Post
                    "yer,but Floyd said this and Floyd said that" Are you fudgepackers for real?
                    Sad, but this is reality..

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                    • Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
                      Pac caved first and gave in to Floyds demands for a 14 day cutoff on OST. why than would Floyd want to hold this fight up with newer more stringent demands if he really wants to fight? I see all kinds of excuses from his fans but one thing that ABSOLUTELY has not changed is that no other fight will bring Floyd anywhere near the amount of money he makes with Pac EVEN with the old demands. So either he's greedy and unreasonable or he flat out doesn't want the fight.
                      I'm not condoning anything, I am just saying don't be surprised if the offer isn't there no more, and it isn't considered as ducking cause Floyd said it isn't in offer anymore in February. Manny said he will accept the 14 day offer, but in reality Floyd has already said there is no offer anymore.

                      Floyd wanted 0, Manny wanted 30 so Floyd thought he would improvise as a one off and offer 14 (offering half way), Manny rejected and then they all tried to blame it on Floyd, Arum trying to desperately make up lies and get to the press before anyone else does... I think thats why, Floyd tried to improvise before and they threw it in his face and tried to make him look like the bad guy, so he probably thought why should he try to improvise.

                      I mean, if its 14 days and the fight happens I wont complain... but I am just saying, I wont be surprised if he says the 14 days isn't there anymore, and wont blame him too much cause of what happened. However, if he decides to retire for 2 years or just starts being overly stubborn on money I will be really dissapointed in him.

                      But to be honest, I just wanna see a great fight... these topic has been done to death, lets just let them negotiate it out, remember... quiet negotiations are good negotiations. Lets just wait and see and hope they can come to an agreement so we can see two great fighters go at it.

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