Why is team Pac agreeing to an "old" deal?

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

What ever happened to Roach saying they were doing 55-45 in Floyds favor. Im sure thats good enough to get it done. Give Floyd more PPV money. Give Pac more live gate money. Fight done.

[damned1974]

Do you know that for a fact?

But even if it's correct, I wouldn't mind too. After all, Pacquiao has the goods!

And all Floyd has is his zero and his blood testing (and his mouth) now these are overshadowing his true skills, now we have something going on with Pac agreeing, and people wanna go back to December last year, instead of clamoring for a fight, they want Floyd to have an upperhand on the negos.

Jro nailed it! Either people are boxing fans or bargaining fans! That's what's up.

Well-even if fame has gotten to his head,it doesn't bother you,eh? Even if it can be preventing top fights from happening???

Funny how you make Floyd sound like he only has an "0" and nothing more.You are out of touch with what Floyd actually does bring to the table.

I'm not a bargaining fan as you imply-I just know that Manny's past negotiations nearly ****ed up because of HIM-nobody else.When there is a pattern of him nearly ****ing off big fights,you turn a blind eye or point the other direction....the reality is,the more popular he has become,the more impossible he has been to negotiate with.That is what I mean when I say "fame has gotten to his head".He isn't the only one in this sport that has pull or popularity....

[BadNewz]

If Pacquiao don't want to fight, Floyd can't force him to. Pacquiao knows he's just going to be another Gatti in there. It would be hilarious what happens to the Philippines when their hero gets destroyed, not just beaten but humiliated and exposed. The whole country would have to go see a psychiatrist.

[Tamis!]

Well-even if fame has gotten to his head,it doesn't bother you,eh?
Funny how you make Floyd sound like he only has an "0" and nothing more.You are out of touch with what Floyd actually does bring to the table.

I'm not a bargaining fan as you imply-I just know that Manny's past negotiations nearly ****ed up because of HIM-nobody else.When there is a pattern of him nearly ****ing off big fights,you turn a blind eye or point the other direction....the reality is,the more popular he has become,the more impossible he has been to negotiate with.That is what I mean when I say "fame has gotten to his head".He isn't the only one in this sport that has pull or popularity....

Why would it bother me?

We all know negos ****ed up the first time. But again I ask you, do you know for a fact that it was Pac and nobody else who's at fault? Never occured to you that scumbag Arum might have a hand? And moreover you let out Floyd at no fault??? IMO they're both at fault!

I'm also a fan of Floyd's skills, but yes, he only has his ZERO, and his blood tests, and all this circus about taking a coupla years off is waning his greatness, and that's a shame, and I don't mind being out of touch with what Floyd offers to the table...

[Mrmza]

Give me a break-if your future opponent would make you the largest amount of money in your lifetime,give you every request demanded,etc - you would tell them to get ****ed over one traded request???

The right logic would be to find a compromise or grant the measly singular request (after all,you are getting everything you asked for).

Funny that you would tell him to **** off,yet now Manny is craving that same offer....

Remember-this "challenger" is Floyd Mayweather... not some unknown bum who doesn't bring you money or further your legacy...he should be entitled to at least one request.

See this is what you and other people don't get. By simply having one "request" has already created rumours amongst boxing fans on both camps. You know what that is man...subliminal messages through "one request". Its accusing someone without actually accusing them. I must admit, PBF knows how to work it. PBF doesn't care about boxing or his fans. All he cares about is himself and making money, as he said its all business. He ain't a warrior like Pacman. He ain't a fighter in the real sense of the word. Which is why he's using his PPV stats as a bargaining tool, because he knows that's all he's got when he goes against Pacman..NOTHING ELSE

[damned1974]

Why would it bother me?

We all know negos ****ed up the first time. But again I ask you, do you know for a fact that it was Pac and nobody else who's at fault? Never occured to you that scumbag Arum might have a hand? And moreover you let out Floyd at no fault??? IMO they're both at fault!

I'm also a fan of Floyd's skills, but yes, he only has his ZERO, and his blood tests, and all this circus about taking a coupla years off is waning his greatness, and that's a shame, and I don't mind being out of touch with what Floyd offers to the table...

Well,if the subject at hand is ABOUT negotiations,then you should want to be in touch instead of neglecting that both parties bring something beneficial to the table.It is not exclusive to one person as you make it appear..in fact,I am sure you don't even buy into that nonsense.

As for Arum playing a part of the Floyd/Manny problems-I would believe this to be a part as well.In past negotiations with Cotto,it wouldn't make the best of logic however, since Cotto is also under Top Rank.
You can call it coincidence or whatever,but these same issues never seemed to arise as dynamic as they did when Hatton and Floyd had negotiations.

[damned1974]

See this is what you and other people don't get. By simply having one "request" has already created rumours amongst boxing fans on both camps. You know what that is man...subliminal messages through "one request". Its accusing someone without actually accusing them. I must admit, PBF knows how to work it. PBF doesn't care about boxing or his fans. All he cares about is himself and making money, as he said its all business. He ain't a warrior like Pacman. He ain't a fighter in the real sense of the word. Which is why he's using his PPV stats as a bargaining tool, because he knows that's all he's got when he goes against Pacman..NOTHING ELSE

Isn't it ppv stats and popularity that Pac uses as a bargaining tool as well? Just look at his reasoning for demanding more money than Cotto and Hatton...it was that very claim that you discredit Floyd for,but in turn,neglect to slander Manny for. How does that make him more of a warrior than Floyd based on that theory?If they are both negotiating based on stats,then why point the finger one way exclusively? I don't understand your debate...it is double standards.

You say "it is accusing someone WITHOUT accusing them" ....which one is it????

BTW-do you really think either of these boxers fight for free-of course they care about money-don't think for one minute than Manny doesn't care about money or fame as much as anyone else-it got him out of poverty and keeps him and his family out of a rough life....the same reason Floyd fights.

[Tamis!]

Well,if the subject at hand is ABOUT negotiations,then you should want to be in touch instead of neglecting that both parties bring something beneficial to the table.It is not exclusive to one person as you make it appear..in fact,I am sure you don't even buy into that nonsense.

As for Arum playing a part of the Floyd/Manny problems-I would believe this to be a part as well.In past negotiations with Cotto,it wouldn't make the best of logic however, since Cotto is also under Top Rank.
You can call it coincidence or whatever,but these same issues never seemed to arise as dynamic as they did when Hatton and Floyd had negotiations.

LOL everyone knows that it's no coincidence coz the matter that destroyed everything for this fight was the blood test issue, something not in the Cotto/Hatton fight negos. That's why I don't get why your saying Manny's changed, Hatton/ Cotto's has the same probs yada yada but clearly it's totally different coz of the extra tests.

It's no coincidence mate...

[IMDAZED]

Pacquiao isn't agreeing to an old deal. He's offering Floyd a new one. In all seriousness - if you catch my drift.

[damned1974]

Pacquiao isn't agreeing to an old deal. He's offering Floyd a new one. In all seriousness - if you catch my drift.

lmfao!!!!!