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  • damned1974
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    #111
    Originally posted by Tamis_Siensya
    What I don't get....

    Floyd said AFTER the negotiations that there would be no cut-off, now my thing is, WHEN HE SAID THAT, WAS THERE ANY NEGOTIATION GOING ON? EXACTLY! HE SAID IT THRU THE MEDIA TOO, no negotiations goin' on too, is that right Floydfans?

    Coz if people keep saying that Manny accepted the old offer, and Arum going to the media, that's the same effin' thing the die hard Floyd fans are blasting Team Pac off, going to the media, but Floyd did and it's all good?

    And Burner my mate, yes, that was an old deal, Manny agreed to it, but don't blast them (except Arum he's a scumbag) coz they went to media because what Floyd's holding on to, his no cut-off next time, passed thru media too.
    Personally-I wouldn't mind if he takes the 14 days,but in reality it may not happen because Manny initially turned it down.It was a good compromise that Manny should have grabbed on to back then to avoid the possibly bigger conflicts in future negotiations...Now, all we are hearing is Manny desperately wanting Floyd's old request and Floyd appears like he is now shunning them or turning up his nose to them. Just look at recent interviews -everytime Pacquiao's name is mentioned,he refuses to pay them attention.I keep thinking that Manny must have been a pain to deal with-especially when you look back to the Hatton and Cotto negotiations.

    Manny should have just accepted the deal the first time around-he was getting everything he wanted,but got greedy....I think fame has gotten to Pacquiao's head a bit- remember,the Hatton and Cotto fights nearly never happened because of Manny asking for too much...there may be a pattern.
    Last edited by damned1974; 06-07-2010, 07:49 AM.

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    • pinoyescrima
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      #112
      I'm just happy all the past great fights in the 70's 80's and 90's didnt have all this PEDS, who draws more, and others B.S. that keeps fights from happening.

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      • Mrmza
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        #113
        Originally posted by No Ceilings
        The posturing is annoying. That deal is off the table. Floyds situation is much different now who is Team Pac kidding with this bull****.

        Damn I though this fight was close to getting signed. Instead agreeing to some old **** Team Pac should be serious about this.

        I know this is Arums doing.

        This ISNT a Pac hate thread. Pac and Roach want it.

        ARUM doesnt.
        Old deal my @$$!!! Nothing was signed in the first place so there weren't any deals made!! Pacquiao is agreeing to PBF's demands which he didn't previously because Pacquiao is the champion while PBF is the challenger. I've said it before, why would a champion submit himself to the demands of a "challenger"?? I would give PBF the middle finger and say get phucked, just as what Pacquiao did. I'm still hopeful, just like all boxing fans, that this fight gets made. This is getting too ridiculous..

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        • damned1974
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          #114
          Originally posted by Mrmza
          Old deal my @$$!!! Nothing was signed in the first place so there weren't any deals made!! Pacquiao is agreeing to PBF's demands which he didn't previously because Pacquiao is the champion while PBF is the challenger. I've said it before, why would a champion submit himself to the demands of a "challenger"?? I would give PBF the middle finger and say get phucked, just as what Pacquiao did. I'm still hopeful, just like all boxing fans, that this fight gets made. This is getting too ridiculous..
          Give me a break-if your future opponent would make you the largest amount of money in your lifetime,give you every request demanded,etc - you would tell them to get ****ed over one traded request???

          The right logic would be to find a compromise or grant the measly singular request (after all,you are getting everything you asked for).

          Funny that you would tell him to **** off,yet now Manny is craving that same offer....

          Remember-this "challenger" is Floyd Mayweather... not some unknown bum who doesn't bring you money or further your legacy...he should be entitled to at least one request.
          Last edited by damned1974; 06-07-2010, 08:00 AM.

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            #115
            The posturing is annoying. That deal is off the table. Floyds situation is much different now who is Team Pac kidding with this bull****.

            Damn I though this fight was close to getting signed. Instead agreeing to some old **** Team Pac should be serious about this.

            I know this is Arums doing.

            This ISNT a Pac hate thread. Pac and Roach want it.

            ARUM doesnt.
            its not about the new deal or old deal.

            its about doing something for the fight to happen.
            and pac just did that.. eventhough he thinks doesnt have to.
            onthe other hand, floyd's camp was all silent.
            and then came out those retirement ****in thing,

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            • Ray*
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              #116
              Am pretty sure a new deal would have to be drawn up by both camps, Things have change in the last 5 months or so, So i hope they can draw something up and get the fight rolling, Am getting fed up already having to be drawn into the PBF-Pac debate.

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              • Tamis!
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                #117
                Originally posted by damned1974
                Personally-I wouldn't mind if he takes the 14 days,but in reality it may not happen because Manny initially turned it down.It was a good compromise that Manny should have grabbed on to back then to avoid the possibly bigger conflicts in future negotiations...Now, all we are hearing is Manny desperately wanting Floyd's old request and Floyd appears like he is now shunning them or turning up his nose to them. Just look at recent interviews -everytime Pacquiao's name is mentioned,he refuses to pay them attention.I keep thinking that Manny must have been a pain to deal with-especially when you look back to the Hatton and Cotto negotiations.

                Manny should have just accepted the deal the first time around-he was getting everything he wanted,but got greedy....I think fame has gotten to Pacquiao's head a bit- remember,the Hatton and Cotto fights nearly never happened because of Manny asking for too much...there may be a pattern.
                Do you know that for a fact?

                But even if it's correct, I wouldn't mind too. After all, Pacquiao has the goods!

                And all Floyd has is his zero and his blood testing (and his mouth) and these are overshadowing his true skills, now we have something going on with Pac agreeing, and people wanna go back to December last year, instead of clamoring for a fight, they want Floyd to have an upperhand on the negos.

                Jro nailed it! Either people are boxing fans or bargaining fans! That's what's up.
                Last edited by Tamis!; 06-07-2010, 08:04 AM.

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by Ray*
                  Am pretty sure a new deal would have to be drawn up by both camps, Things have change in the last 5 months or so, So i hope they can draw something up and get the fight rolling, Am getting fed up already having to be drawn into the PBF-Pac debate.
                  Sir, really hoped everyone posts and thinks just like you!

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by dibzvincent143
                    its not about the new deal or old deal.

                    its about doing something for the fight to happen.

                    and pac just did that.. eventhough he thinks doesnt have to.
                    onthe other hand, floyd's camp was all silent.
                    and then came out those retirement ****in thing,

                    I agree 100%, For me i hope they can work something out but looking at the business-side they would have to draw up a new deal (Thats has to happen) Because circumstances has change since the last time they were at the table.

                    And Team Pacquiao too need to show some class and stop talking to the media, They are reason people seem to be jumping all over their heads, They need to stop coming out with different stories everyday and negotiate in silent for once.

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by Tamis_Siensya
                      Sir, really hoped everyone posts and thinks just like you!

                      Thanks lol, am just tired now with this fights negotiations.. I just want to wake up and hear that the fight has been agreed and signed, So we can actually debate who wins, how the fight goes etc.............And yeah Mayweather by stoppage.. lol.....

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