Why is team Pac agreeing to an "old" deal?

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  • jrosales13
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    #101
    Originally posted by No Ceilings
    The retiring thing is played bro. His own uncle deaded that ****.
    If we going to take Roger word for that comment. And, that issue is dead. Then can we be consistent and also stop talking about Floyd fighting Martinez? Because, Roger deaded that **** too.

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    • whirlwind
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      #102
      Originally posted by damned1974
      I'm still confused how Pacquiao felt weakened by blood being drawn and felt Floyd was bullying him,but all of a sudden he feels it will no longer "weaken him" or "bully him"..in a matter of a few months he is somehow miraculously healed! Amazing...

      Anyone who believes Floyd was the one who ran from the first offer must be kidding themselves-especially since now Pacquiao is begging for it (when he KNOWS there will be different conditions-Floyd stated this once the 1st negotiations fell through)...by saying Manny is NOW accepting the offer,you have to consider/ admit a few things-
      A-Manny ducked Floyd the first time(remember,even Roach didn't feel Manny was ready,but now since he is close to retiring-he suddenly is???)

      B-Manny was lying about the mental effect OST has on him (Manny himself said blood testing has an enormous effect on him...yet he was able to get into hardcore sparring directly afterwards).People will believe anything Manny says as long as he appears as a simpleton with a smile.
      Lying is a part of a politicians trade,why would Manny be any different?
      I will ask you just one question. Trust me you will not answer it like the other *****s did. Let us say Floyd did not commanded Pac (like Floyd some kind of Pac's military sargeant) to take this OST like what he did on his last 40 fights except Shane. Do you think we should seen this fight already by now?

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      • B.U.R.N.E.R
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        #103
        Originally posted by jrosales13
        If we going to take Roger word for that comment. And, that issue is dead. Then can we be consistent and also stop talking about Floyd fighting Martinez? Because, Roger deaded that **** too.
        I could careless really. Everyone knows hes a back up option.

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          #104
          Originally posted by No Ceilings
          I could careless really. Everyone knows hes a back up option.
          Oh OK, so now we picking and choosing on what to believe from Roger?

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            #105
            I find it funny how people just going to pick and chose statements to help their agenda. Be consistent.

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              #106
              Some of you guys care more about Floyd winning in negotiations. WTF is wrong with you guys?

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                #107
                Originally posted by jrosales13
                If we going to take Roger word for that comment. And, that issue is dead. Then can we be consistent and also stop talking about Floyd fighting Martinez? Because, Roger deaded that **** too.
                damn. u got him! now, he picks the line and only believe what he should believe. tsk..tsk..tsk..

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                • damned1974
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by whirlwind
                  I will ask you just one question. Trust me you will not answer it like the other *****s did. Let us say Floyd did not commanded Pac (like Floyd some kind of Pac's military sargeant) to take this OST like what he did on his last 40 fights except Shane. Do you think we should seen this fight already by now?
                  Floyd has been listening to suggestions from friends, family, fellow boxers,etc that Pac is dabbling in PEDs.If you were in a similar situation where everyone you respected has told you that they believe your future opponent may be doping, would you not be curious and demand strict testing to ensure the opponent isn't?
                  Sure, Floyd's family are pretty screwy,but it is his family and chances are,he will listen to them just to make sure they are wrong.

                  You choose to neglect the fact that it could be perceived that Manny was the one who tried to perhaps discourage Floyd from a fight asking for every demand in his favour,including outrageous stipulations ($10,000,000 per pound) for weight.Floyd agreed to all of Manny's demands-that is the facts we know.We also know that Manny felt uncomfortable granting one request.Floyd tried to meet him halfway with his request and it still wasn't good enough back then (yet somehow it is good enough now that it is months off of the table).

                  Fair is fair-if Manny got everything he asked for,it is a pretty good deal-even if he has to trade off with only one request from Floyd.Obviously the old deal seems very appealing to Manny,because he is now asking for it.

                  I will ask you a question in return-
                  If Floyd declined the fight because of the 10,000,000 dollar weight penalty,would you still blame him for the fight not happening due to it's excessive amount? Oddly,you will probably find a way to point the finger towards Floyd anyway you can-whether it is justified or otherwise.

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                  • damned1974
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by whirlwind
                    I will ask you just one question. Trust me you will not answer it like the other *****s did. Let us say Floyd did not commanded Pac (like Floyd some kind of Pac's military sargeant) to take this OST like what he did on his last 40 fights except Shane. Do you think we should seen this fight already by now?
                    Again-the "drill sargeant/bully" comparison is a dramatic b.s. excuse...Floyd made a request to trade off with Manny's several requests-yet you think that makes him a bully???!!! If anything,Manny and company "bullied" their way into getting all their wishes granted like they were rubbing some kind of magic lamp.

                    If you really feel that Manny was getting bullied,why does he now realize that he was actually getting a very good deal and is asking for that very same one?.....

                    It is like that cliche-"you don't know what you've got until its gone".
                    Last edited by damned1974; 06-07-2010, 07:30 AM.

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                      #110
                      What I don't get....

                      Floyd said AFTER the negotiations that there would be no cut-off, now my thing is, WHEN HE SAID THAT, WAS THERE ANY NEGOTIATION GOING ON? EXACTLY! HE SAID IT THRU THE MEDIA TOO, no negotiations goin' on too, is that right Floydfans?

                      Coz if people keep saying that Manny accepted the old offer, and Arum going to the media, that's the same effin' thing the die hard Floyd fans are blasting Team Pac off, going to the media, but Floyd did and it's all good?

                      And Burner my mate, yes, that was an old deal, Manny agreed to it, but don't blast them (except Arum he's a scumbag) coz they went to media because what Floyd's holding on to, his no cut-off next time, passed thru media too.

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