Why is team Pac agreeing to an "old" deal?

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  • Carpe Diem
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    #31
    Originally posted by mesher
    Why does team Pac have to bow down and do EVERYTHING mayweather wants? They compromised and want the fight to move forward. Seems like Floyd just don't want it.
    Like Floyd didn't bowed down on his knees to his demands last time. Pac and his camp asked for several demands, Floyd asked for just one demand.

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    • Mr. Mandingo
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      #32
      This was to see if the reason is really that Floyd wants a fair fight..

      Apparently it isnt

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        #33
        Originally posted by No Ceilings
        Mosley is not and never was a draw man. Hell Hopkins beat Oscar as well what did that do for his drawing power?

        Its not Floyd fault Pac fought Clottey. Pac had Cowboys Stadium as his dance partner.

        I dont get the last half of your post at all.
        So you wouldn't say Mosley isn't a bigger draw than Clottey? He never was a big draw, but cmon he's bigger than Clottey.
        Your argument from what I get is, even thou he agreed to everything Floyd wanted the first time, now he must agree to Floyds new terms, because Floyd had bigger PPV numbers. If not he is holding up the fight.
        Is that right?

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          #34
          Originally posted by mesher
          Why does team Pac have to bow down and do EVERYTHING mayweather wants? They compromised and want the fight to move forward. Seems like Floyd just don't want it.
          This is what I'm thinking/

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            #35
            Originally posted by SRcrit
            So you wouldn't say Mosley isn't a bigger draw than Clottey? He never was a big draw, but cmon he's bigger than Clottey.
            Your argument from what I get is, even thou he agreed to everything Floyd wanted the first time, now he must agree to Floyds new terms, because Floyd had bigger PPV numbers. If not he is holding up the fight.
            Is that right?
            I agree Shane is a bigger draw than Clottey. In that same token Cotto is a bigger draw than SSM and Clottey.

            To your second point I think they just start with the new demands on both sides and go from there. But agreeing to the "old" deal is just pointless posturing in my eyes. A deal can be worked out. Maybe Pac gets more from the gate. Floyd gets more from PPV. Things can be worked out.

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              #36
              Originally posted by No Ceilings
              Only 1.4??? How long have you been watching boxing? Do you know how GOOD that is?

              Clottey was his last fight an Floyd doubled his Clottey PPV. Cotto is a bigger draw then Mosley and Clottye but you knew that right??

              What do you mean if Im truly a fan?? Have you been under a rock bro? Roach just sai like last week he was ready to do 55-45 in Pacs favor. How can I supprt a deal thats OFF the table and balled up? No one is playing Ellerbe here Im just going with facts. That deal is off FLOYD said that. Roach CONFIRMED it.
              Wtf are you talking about? How good 1.4 is? You do know they kept saying that the fight would do close to, if not more than 2 million right? Schaefer's dumb ass even said the fight would do more than 3 million.

              And so what if Cotto is a slightly bigger draw than Shane? Is Clottey a bigger draw than Shane? Better yet, is the gap between Cotto and Shane larger than Cotto and Clottey? Like I said, it's simple common sense to compare the Floyd/Shane fight to the Pacquiao/Cotto fight, but it seems you're so bent on the idea of comparing their "last" fights instead of using common sense.

              The only person whose said the deal was off was Floyd. If he truly wanted to fight Pacquiao, he'd suck it up and green light the original plan he himself laid out (as ridiculous as it was, demanding OSDT bs). If Floyd/Shane did the numbers they were boasting about (2 mil, 2.1, 2.2, yatta yatta yatta) before the numbers actually came out then I would agree that Floyd should have some sort of edge in terms of leverage, but it didn't. So since it didn't, nothing changes. Green light the original deal, sign the dotted line, and make the fight. Otherwise kick rocks, enjoy retirement and being labeled as the biggest ***** in boxing history.

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                #37
                Originally posted by No Ceilings
                I agree Shane is a bigger draw than Clottey. In that same token Cotto is a bigger draw than SSM and Clottey.

                To your second point I think they just start with the new demands on both sides and go from there. But agreeing to the "old" deal is just pointless posturing in my eyes. A deal can be worked out. Maybe Pac gets more from the gate. Floyd gets more from PPV. Things can be worked out.
                Yes, I agree Cotto is a bigger draw.
                Sounds good to me. But if Pac was to get a portion of the gate, I'm sure Arum would push hard for putting the fight in Dallas.
                I'm just want the fight to get done. *** the BS

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by badass316
                  Wtf are you talking about? How good 1.4 is? You do know they kept saying that the fight would do close to, if not more than 2 million right? Schaefer's dumb ass even said the fight would do more than 3 million.

                  And so what if Cotto is a slightly bigger draw than Shane? Is Clottey a bigger draw than Shane? Better yet, is the gap between Cotto and Shane larger than Cotto and Clottey? Like I said, it's simple common sense to compare the Floyd/Shane fight to the Pacquiao/Cotto fight, but it seems you're so bent on the idea of comparing their "last" fights instead of using common sense.

                  The only person whose said the deal was off was Floyd. If he truly wanted to fight Pacquiao, he'd suck it up and green light the original plan he himself laid out (as ridiculous as it was, demanding OSDT bs). If Floyd/Shane did the numbers they were boasting about (2 mil, 2.1, 2.2, yatta yatta yatta) before the numbers actually came out then I would agree that Floyd should have some sort of edge in terms of leverage, but it didn't. So since it didn't, nothing changes. Green light the original deal, sign the dotted line, and make the fight. Otherwise kick rocks, enjoy retirement and being labeled as the biggest ***** in boxing history.

                  If you think 1.4 is nothing. I really cant waste time discussing this subject with you.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by No Ceilings
                    If you think 1.4 is nothing. I really cant waste time discussing this subject with you.
                    Way to ignore the whole post. Great job champ. I think I filled the post with to much logic for you, next time I'll try to throw in more BS so you can comprehend it.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by SRcrit
                      Yes, I agree Cotto is a bigger draw.
                      Sounds good to me. But if Pac was to get a portion of the gate, I'm sure Arum would push hard for putting the fight in Dallas.
                      I'm just want the fight to get done. *** the BS
                      At the end of the day me too. Its a hassle to get these two in the ring. I cantw ait til they touch gloves an go to nuetral corners. Dallas would would sell out. I think thats a fair trade. Pac seems to get ore people at his fights and Floyd gets more PPV buys. If posters can figure this **** out I know they can.

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